April 30, 2024

"Coming In Hot!: Engaging Culture"

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Living Up In A Down World

Join Jimmy and guest Brian Mandel for an intense conversation about the current cultural cesspool we are all swimming in. What is going on and why is this happening? Fasten your seatbelts and hang on for the ride!

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and I'll see you next time.

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Don't get down when you're seeing the worst

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Cause the last will be the first

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What a day I'm telling you

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All things will be new

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Living up in a down world

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Yeah we're living, yeah we're living

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Living up in a down world

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This is Jimmy and NadaNet today

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We have our special guest back by popular demand

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Pastor Brian Manning. Hello.

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Welcome to Living Up in a Down World.

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Hey Pastor Jimmy, thank you for having me back for round two.

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I'm excited to talk about some big things today.

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So what y'all don't know is that

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Pastor Brian and I just did the best show we ever did

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and I didn't hit the record button.

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Let's just tell them the real truth.

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We did 30 minutes worth of knock down drag out.

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I hope we can...

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We got a preview of the show and we can just tell you in advance

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it's going to be great.

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All those episodes are on there.

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Check it out. Welcome Pastor Brian.

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I'm ready to talk about big things.

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Let's get into it.

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There is a lot of low hanging fruit out there

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and what I mean by that is there is so much

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happening in this world right now

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that there's so much to choose from.

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When we were talking about,

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what do you want to talk about today?

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You wrote me this morning.

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What do you have in mind?

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And I'm like, what do I not have in mind?

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There is so much happening in the world.

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We want to address some of those things.

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Obviously not all of them.

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But one of the things I want to bring up

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is what is happening right now prophetically.

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It appears that things are lining up

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in terms of what's happening with Russia,

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what's happening with North Korea, China.

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The world seeming to turn its back on Israel.

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There are a lot of things

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prophetically lining up.

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It is possible.

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I've heard some very well respected

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in this world today

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that I'm saying are not the kooky type.

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They are not flaky.

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They are solid.

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They are saying we are at a point

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right now where the church

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could be raptured at any point.

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There are other things that need to line up

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in terms of setting up the tribulation,

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setting up the Gog and Magog invasion of Israel.

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There are a lot of things happening.

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That's Ezekiel 38.

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of the dry bones, that's already happened

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in 1948 when Israel

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was reestablished as a nation.

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setting things up

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because these are both the best and worst

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of times. How does that hit you?

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excited in a weird way

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by the totality

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of all that we are seeing happen right now

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because A, it's right

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on time with God's plan.

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There is nothing happening, first of all.

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If you are a believer in Jesus, there is nothing

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happening that is outside of

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God's awareness and outside of

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what he planned and knew was going

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He loves us and he is going to take care of his people,

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number one. Secondly,

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when you look prophetically

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at what we are told in Scripture

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is going to happen, if you look in

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the book of Malachi in chapter 3 and chapter

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about how, yes, there is

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going to be an apostasy,

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there is going to be a falling away, there is going to be

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turbulent times and difficult times,

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but before Jesus returns, it also

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talks about that there is going to be one

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of the greatest revivals

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that the world has ever seen.

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It is going to happen in the midst of the darkest

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darkness that we have ever seen

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in the world. And that is what gives

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me hope and encouragement is that when it

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gets bad, when things get dark,

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God shows up, and he shows up through

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his people, through the Holy Spirit

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in his people, for those

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who will be faithful and who will hold

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do the things that he is calling them to do

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in the midst of the darkness.

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I so agree with that. In fact,

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you reminded me of something historically

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speaking that the first great

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awakening that happened actually

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gave way to the American Revolution.

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for the American Revolution. And by the way,

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only 50% of the pastors

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or less were actually in favor of

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that. It was a nation

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at that time. We were divided.

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The colonies were divided,

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the states were divided. They were at

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war with one another, they were debating

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morality and issues,

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and sometimes people have these ideas that these

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great revivals were times

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of great unity and great,

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we are all one singing kumbaya

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around the fire. That is not

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how it happened. It was messy,

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it was sloppy. There were horrible

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things going on. Slavery was

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entrenched at that time, and

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a lot of terrible things were happening,

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and yet in the midst of that, God showed

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up and began to move in miraculous ways.

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The second great awakening,

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what did that give rise to?

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the Civil War and out of

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slavery. There you go.

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again in wartime.

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we have these ideas that when we talk about

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spiritual awakening and revival,

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we are talking about wonderful altar calls.

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Wow, what a great day at

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church. The worship team sounded so anointing,

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and Pastor Brian was just off the rails

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preaching. He is on fire.

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Let's go eat. Let's go have lunch.

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Let's go over to Backwoods Barbecue and have

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some barbecue at AJ's place.

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laxadaisical,

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nonchalant,

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indifferent approach to what is

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going on, and we miss the fact

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that it is actually in times of

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great upheaval, great

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division and disunity,

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great debates over morality

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and issues. When God shows

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up the most, why? Because we are

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sin abounds, grace abounds,

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all the more. I think

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we are set up, just as you were

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saying, out of Malachi, Malachi if

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you are Italian, right, out of Malachi,

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that we are set up for one of

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the next great awakenings right now.

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in Malachi 3, the refiner's

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fire, and that is where

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the church is right now. We have really

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been there probably for the last two or

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three decades. There was a

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the power and

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the healing and the

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moves of God in big ways,

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but what happened was, a lot

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of the church did not steward it very well,

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and instead they marketed

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it, and they tried to make money off of

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it, and they made it about themselves,

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and about growing big churches

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rather than making it about drawing people

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into the presence of God. What

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we have seen in the church is a bit of a

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wilderness that we have been in over the last

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20 or 30 years, but it is

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in the wilderness that God prepares

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His people for what He wants to do

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next, and I believe that the church is

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poised to come out of the wilderness, and I think

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we are going to see God move in big ways.

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I think another piece of that was

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we got excited about making converts,

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and we missed what Jesus told us to do.

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He did not tell us to make converts.

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He told us to make disciples.

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And what happened was, we dropped the ball

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on discipleship. So then

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you have a whole generation of Christians

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who can get excited

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over the presence of God and great worship

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and great preaching, get all stirred up at a conference,

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but when the winds of adversity

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grow, they do not have roots

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that go down deep enough to support

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their pain and support what is coming

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against them. Yeah, and that is what we need.

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We need foundations. We need deep

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roots of discipleship,

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because it is to

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obey what God is calling us to do.

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It is not going to be easy. There is

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going to be difficulty involved. He said,

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in this world you will have trouble.

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brought intentionally by God upon us

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to grow our roots,

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to refine us, to prepare us. So camp on that for a minute.

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a lot of people have this idea that

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God is just this big, benevolent

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grandfather sitting in an old, big old

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rocking chair, just waiting for

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his kids to come sit on his lap. And I have

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heard people use those

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metaphors, or something like those

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metaphors, to where it is just this

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sloppy agape, as

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Pastor Alan Jackson says. Wow.

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Sloppy agape,

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just sit around the fire saying kumbaya,

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because it is just all about love, brother.

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It is just all about, just love

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each other. Yeah.

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Well, and the love of God isn't to be

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taken lightly. The Bible says that God

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is love. He doesn't have it. He is love.

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And love is defined by him.

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That is part of where we have gone wrong

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in our conception of love,

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is we have tried to redefine the idea of

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love outside of who God is

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and what He says it is.

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on things that aren't really

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loving. We are calling

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love things that are actually destroying

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people, things that are tearing them

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down. And we are saying it is loving

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because we are making them

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feel good in the moment. We are telling them

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something that tickles their ears or what they

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may want to hear or that is comfortable

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in the moment. But ultimately,

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it destroys them. It doesn't

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help them, and that is not love.

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we think that love means

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being silent towards

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someone's sin because we don't want to impose

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our beliefs upon them. So we are going

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to love them by not saying anything.

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the opposite of love.

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Love means you speak.

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Love means you speak the truth.

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the truth because of love. And I think

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that is where we miss it. It is easy to quote

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that scripture, speak the truth in love, brother.

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Speak the truth in love. You know, gel cap

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it with love so it goes down okay.

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It is speaking the truth because you love.

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My dad had no

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problems speaking the truth to me.

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a belt, and sometimes it was with

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a boot. And he never abused

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me, never once. But you know what?

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He got my attention. And I knew

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I was loved by my father.

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And by the way, I earned every one I got.

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I earned it. Absolutely.

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a father, God disciplines

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those whom he loves. Absolutely.

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But yet we think that if something

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not so comfortable is happening

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or if something is inconveniencing

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us, that we are either A, being

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persecuted by the devil,

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or being persecuted by others. By the way, the Bible

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does say that those who desire to live

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Godly in Christ Jesus will be

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persecuted. So if you are

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living Godly in Christ Jesus, expect

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it. And I am not talking about some

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keyboard warrior out there making a bad

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comment on their social media link.

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I am talking about real deal, in your

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face, persecution.

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Absolutely. Well you know, I was

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a youth pastor for a long time. And I

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know you were too. And I have

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yet to meet a young

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person who grew up,

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who had parents who

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didn't discipline them,

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and didn't teach them righteousness,

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and hold them accountable,

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who then grew up and said,

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that was awesome.

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many young people who are now in their

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20s and in their 30s,

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one of their biggest regrets is

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the fact that their parents just let them

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do whatever they wanted. And

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they wandered off into all kinds

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of error and sin

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and painful experiences that they are

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now reaping the consequences

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for, for the rest of their lives.

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had disciplined me,

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had shown me what was

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going to harm me. And if we know that

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instinctively as mothers and

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fathers and about when we think

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about our kids, why would we think that

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God would treat us any differently?

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That comes from Him.

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Let's take that back into what's happening

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in our culture right now.

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Is that things look bad

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out there. It looks like

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God may be judging

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America right now.

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And we don't like to talk about that in the contemporary

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church. We don't want to talk about God

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being wrathful or

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just. You need to read your whole Bible,

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not just the Old Testament.

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You need to read the whole Bible. It's all through

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the New Testament as well. That God's

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just. That there is a wrath against

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wickedness. And He will not

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strive with man. I was looking at the latest

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statistic.

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63 million abortions

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since 1973.

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Roe v Wade. Oh my gosh.

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63 million abortions.

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I was telling Annette last night,

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literally with tears in my eyes. I got really

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choked up about it. About how

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ambivalent I have been about that.

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I've gone on with my life

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knowing that this stuff's

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happening. But

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either it just wasn't

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in my realm

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at that moment. It wasn't right in front of

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me. And I was

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really feeling sorrow, godly sorrow

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last night. And repentant

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that I haven't stood

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for 63

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million children who have been murdered.

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me. Not in a condemnation way.

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By the way, this is not a bad thing.

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This was godly conviction.

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This was where I was feeling the weight and gravity

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of how dark

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our sin is. And I told

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Annette last night. Now I think you would agree

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if we have done

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everything right as a nation.

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Man, we preached God in the school classrooms.

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We kept prayer in schools.

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taught kids the Lord's Prayer all through

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K through 12. And we've

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got godly

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school boards. And

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we've kept secularism out. We've kept

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Marxism out. Which we need to talk a little bit about

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Marxism and Trans-Maoism. We'll talk

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a little bit about that. But if we

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did everything right, except

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63 million

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babies murdered on our

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watch, that's still enough

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to be judged for. And how

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can we think?

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How can we even imagine

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that God will not judge

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our nation for those murders?

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When we get all incensed about

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Hitler and 6 million

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Jewish people, which is horrific

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and terrible, other

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atrocities in other nations like Africa

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and others that were even more

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than that have been lost

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to sickness, terrorism,

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all these things, we'll judge

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them, but we don't look at

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ourselves as a nation because we've grown silent

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about this. Well, I think

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a sin

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that's as great as the sin

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of 63 million murders

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is the church's

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indifference towards it.

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a blind eye,

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to turn up the volume of our worship,

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to drown out the news and

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the cries. Tell that story about

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the train headed

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to Auschwitz. Yeah, so

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Dietrich Bonhoeffer in that time when he was

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trying to wake the church up to

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saying, hey, we're getting embroiled

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in something evil here, and

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we're becoming complicit in it.

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We're not standing

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up and being the voice of truth and

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righteousness to stop evil.

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pastor says, evil never stops

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itself. Evil

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is only ever stopped by

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God's people and the presence

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of God, a greater power.

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while the church may not have been directly

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participating in the murder

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of Jews and the people that were being

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rounded up, they were being

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silent in the face of it.

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anecdotally that was told of

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a church that was near the train tracks

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where the trains would pass by that were full

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of the Jews being taken to the concentration

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camps and all those other people that

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the Nazis had begun to round up.

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And you could literally hear the cries

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coming out of the trains as it was passing by

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the church, and you could hear it in the church.

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And so, rather than

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addressing it, the pastor's direction

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at the time was, you know, let's sing louder

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so we don't hear this.

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we, I got incensed when

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I read that story. And I'd heard

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that story a long time ago, but recently it came

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back up and I remembered it. And

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it went all over me. I had a

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visceral reaction to that story.

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That how insensitive

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can we be? And yet,

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I'm beginning to see that we're doing that

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in America today.

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We have a responsibility as those

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who carry light and life

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and the truth and the very

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presence of God. If we fail

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to share that,

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to declare it accurately and

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openly, regardless of

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the cost of speaking truth,

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then we've abandoned

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the faith. We're complicit.

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We don't really believe what we say

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we believe. It's an easy believe

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that we've embraced, as you've talked about

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before. Yeah.

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I was commenting on a friend's post

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and he was talking about lordship

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and about holiness. And I said

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we have

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wherever we have embraced easy

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believe-ism, it gives way to

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easy leave-ism. Yep.

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Because there's no skin in the game.

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If we just make these easy

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onramps to come to Jesus, oh yeah, just come

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and get your sins forgiven

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and go live happily ever after in heaven

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without challenging people.

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This also means, in the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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to quote him again,

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Jesus bids a man

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come and die.

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And we've got to get to a place

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where we actually let people

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know this, that

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salvation is a free gift,

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but the price that was paid for

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it was a life. That's right.

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And that your expectation,

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albeit free,

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your expectation is to come

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and die too. You have to die to your sin,

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die to your carnality,

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die to your primal drive,

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your flesh. And

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literally you can't be born again

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unless you're dead. That's right.

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How are you born again unless you're coming

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out of, you have to be birthed

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from something. It just,

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it's a prerequisite.

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What did Jesus say? He said,

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a servant is not greater than his master.

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If the master had to

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lead in this way, and we're

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going to follow him, then we're

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following him in the way that he modeled

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for us, which was death to self.

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Wow. Nailed it.

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So,

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so this last

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Sunday, Annette and I were

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blessed to travel to Nashville,

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Murfreesboro actually,

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World Outreach Church, with Pastor

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Allen Jackson. We were able

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to sit at the feet of

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Eric Metaxas talking about

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Letter to the American Church and his newest

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book,

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Religionless

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Christianity. It's a hard, he even said

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it's a bad title, but it's a quote.

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It's actually a term that Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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used. That's why he used it as the title,

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knowing it was not the best title in the world,

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but he wanted it to convey what the

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book is about. And

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we had to hear Kaylee McAnally talking

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about the abortion issue.

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She's really pro-life, all in pro-life.

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That's her big thing.

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We got to hear last week

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on Thursday night, you and Naomi got

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to be a part of that. We heard Abby Johnson

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speaking about the

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issue of pro-life and

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just the decimating statistics

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of all of that.

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So, I'll just have to say, we've come out

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of a few days of some heavy weight, heavy

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lifting, so to speak. And

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you had the privilege,

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and our church was blessed, to hear you

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preach on Sunday. And

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you stayed right in that lane

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when you talked about these

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guardrails and the narrow

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road and the wide road or gates,

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whichever translation you used.

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Talk a little bit about that, because

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that factors right into where we're going today.

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Well, there was a man who came

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up to Jesus in the book of Luke

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and said, Lord,

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will only a few be saved.

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And Jesus' response

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to that wasn't, hey, hey,

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don't worry, I got you covered.

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I'm about

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to go die on the cross, and once I

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do, you guys are all

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off the hook. That's not what he said.

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He said, there's a narrow road

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and it's difficult to travel,

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and there are few who will choose

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to travel on it.

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And he said, conversely,

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there's a wide road that's broad and

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it's easy, and many will

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travel on it. He said, but it

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leads to destruction and eternal

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judgment. And he said,

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so, strive.

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He literally said the word strive. Strive

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to travel down the narrow

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path. He said, make every

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effort to find yourself

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on this narrow road.

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And what's narrow about it? Well, first

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of all, it begins with Jesus is

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the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody

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comes to the Father except through him.

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But Pastor Brian, what about,

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you know, what about Muslims?

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What about Baha'i faith? What about

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Buddhism? Which, you know, Buddhism is a peaceful

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philosophy

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slash religion. I mean, what about

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them? I mean, aren't there many

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rivers that lead to the one large

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Great Lake? Well, the message

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of Jesus is there's nothing we can do to make

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our peace with God.

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God had to come and make peace with us, and the

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difference between Jesus, Christianity,

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and every other attempt

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to connect with God in every

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religion ever is that

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he came to us. We didn't come to him.

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He did for us what we could not do

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for ourselves. There's no

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one righteous, not a single one,

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the Bible says, that our greatest

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attempt at being good is like

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filthy rags before a holy God.

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But God wasn't content to leave us in

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that place decimated by sin.

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He came to do for us what we

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couldn't do for ourselves, and he died for our

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sins, and he rose from the dead.

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And he sent us the Holy Spirit that if we will

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follow him and we will become disciples,

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if we will choose his narrow way,

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it's narrow because it's his

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way, not anybody else's. There you go.

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You just nailed it. You know, he's

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the one who's calling the shots here.

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And that's really the sticking

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point for every human in all of

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history is to decide if they can

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submit their heart to the understanding

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that God is in charge, not me.

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It's not my life. My life belongs

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to him. It started with him

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knitting me together in my mother's wound.

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And if I'm going to follow him, he

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has ownership, lordship over

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my life. But that's not a

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scary thing. That's not a sad thing.

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That's the greatest news in the world

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because the Bible says he is a God who

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loves us. He's our Father.

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He knows what makes us and fixes

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us. He also knows what breaks us

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and his heart for us is good.

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It's beautiful, brother.

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Man, so much about what

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you just said I could riff on because I'm like

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there, no there, no that

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one. I mean, it was so

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full just bringing the Gospel

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into this. There are

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people who have struggled, particularly people who

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have not embraced Christianity

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or they see it as a philosophy

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as opposed to a long list of philosophies

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and world views. And they

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would say things like, well, you know

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the problem with Jesus is that

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he made himself exclusive.

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That he is the only way.

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And I'm like, the truth hurts.

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I mean, actually

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the truth doesn't hurt. The truth

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heals. That's a good truth.

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And the fact that

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he says that if you will become a follower

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of him, if you will embrace him

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and you will heed his words

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you will become what is called a disciple,

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a learner, a student.

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One of the things that we as the Church,

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again, here's a broad stroke,

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one of the things we as the Church have done

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poorly since

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the 80's, 70's, 80's,

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90's and we had the Charismatic renewal come

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through in the 70's, the Jesus movement.

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And all these people

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were getting saved. This whole generation

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got really impacted by the Gospel.

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And what happened out of that

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was that we got so excited

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about conversions.

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And my background is Baptist,

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Southern Baptist. So it was

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all about evangelism. Get people

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saved. Get them saved. Get them saved.

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Get them saved. Get them to church. Get them saved.

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Get them to training union.

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Get them to the potluck dinner.

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Get them to the... It was come to church,

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come to church, come to church, come to Sunday school.

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Got to grow our Sunday school classes.

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And that was what it was all about.

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And listen, that was good. I mean, it was...

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It trained me. It was good

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for me. I did all of that.

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But the thing that we didn't

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do well, and I'm just going to...

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I'm talking about Southern Baptist, but I would

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go broader now and say, is that

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we got so focused

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on conversions, people accepting

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Christ, getting born again

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and baptized, that

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we missed the discipleship

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component, which is the

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very thing that makes people

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resilient, and it's

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called the fruit of repentance.

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It's actually the sign

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that you are truly a follower of Jesus. Let me give you

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this quote. Bonhoeffer knew

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that God demanded everything

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of us, and when one doesn't

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live out of one's faith,

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or when one doesn't live out of...

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Let me say it again.

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When one doesn't live out one's

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faith, it only proves that

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one had no faith to begin

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with. Wow.

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That's heavy. Well, you nailed

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it, and the truth is we

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needed what happened through the Jesus movement.

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We needed what happened in the 70s, because we were

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coming out of a period in the church

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of a lot of legalism, a lot

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of lifeless religion that was

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devoid of relationship with God,

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that was outwardly pious.

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It was kind of like where Jesus would

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admonish Pharisees. He said, hey, you

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clean the outside of things,

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but the inside is like

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dead men's bones.

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We had become that way a lot as a church.

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It looked good, had a nice veneer

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on it, but inwardly, we lack

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this relationship with God. It was

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driven by the fact that we had lost

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sight of how much God loves us.

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That He's daddy, He's

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father, that He meets us out in

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the middle of the road when we're even

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trying to come back to Him and wraps

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His arms around us and kills the fatted calf

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and puts His robe on us because He

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loves us so much. That is a needed

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truth, and it rescued us out of the

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ditch of legalism.

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That was a ditch we needed to get out of

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to be on that narrow road that Jesus talks

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about. The problem was, and what you're

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driving at now is that we ran over into

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the other ditch on the other side.

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We overcorrected. We overcorrected as we often do.

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We fell into the ditch

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now of what the Bible

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calls lawlessness and

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sin, and really just a

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license that Scripture and God

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doesn't give that

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makes us feel as though

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we will just be excused

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for whatever we currently are,

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however we currently think,

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whatever we currently want to do because

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God's grace just covers it all, and He

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just loves us so much. Does He love us?

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Yes, He is love.

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But He's also empowered us, and He's

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called us to travel down this narrow road

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to follow Jesus and to obey Him.

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And the guardrail that gets us

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out of that ditch of sin and

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lawlessness and license and cheap grace

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is what the Bible calls the fear of the

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Lord. And the fear of the Lord is

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really learning

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to cling to God and depend

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on Him over and above anything and

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anyone else. It's to recognize our great need

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for Him. You know, in Matthew chapter

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5 and verse 3, in the Sermon on

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the Mount, Jesus said, blessed are those who

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are poor in spirit who

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recognize their great need

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00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
for God. Theirs is the kingdom

833
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
of heaven. And that's what the fear of the

834
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Lord is at the end of the day. It's when you have

835
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
the sober recognition of,

836
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
man, I don't want to take one

837
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
step away from the one

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00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
who saves my life and who

839
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,000
makes me whole. I'm terrified

840
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,000
to be away from God. I'm not scared of

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00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
God. And that is

842
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the greatest, or the essence of

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humility, which is the sermon you preached a few

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00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,000
weeks ago. Kind of, these

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really tag along with each other. I could

846
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,000
see this thread going through

847
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
each of these. And so this idea

848
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,000
of humility will re-recognize

849
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,000
who God is. You see Isaiah

850
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
standing before the throne. And

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00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
he's overwhelmed. I mean, because he's

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00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000
seeing God high and lifted up. He's

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seeing the glory.

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And the word glory has

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00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000
many facets to it. One of them

856
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
is God's manifested presence. And so

857
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
he's beholding the presence of

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00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,000
God. He's seeing it.

859
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000
He's overwhelmed. And his first word

860
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
out of his mouth is, whoa.

861
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Whoa is me.

862
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
I am undone, for I'm a

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00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000
man. I'm a man of unclean

864
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000
lips. And I live among a people

865
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000
of unclean. He recognized, and

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00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000
really that's the essence of humility, is

867
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000
to recognize in comparison

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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
to a holy God,

869
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
we're a hot mess.

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00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
And we need help. And we need saving.

871
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000
And that's the thing is he

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00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
wants to bring that to us

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00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,000
to save us.

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00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
To literally change

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00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,000
everything about our lives.

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And

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00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000
he's given us a gift to

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00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
participate in that process. And that

879
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,000
gift is a word that we've

880
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000
shied away from in the church. It's called repentance.

881
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,000
It was the message of Jesus. It

882
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000
says the gospel of Jesus Christ began

883
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
with him preaching, repent

884
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

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00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000
You want to know what Jesus

886
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,000
was saying? That's what he was saying. He's saying

887
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
turn around. Change the way you think.

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00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Make God's ways your

889
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
ways. Learn to love what he loves and hate

890
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,000
what he hates. That's repentance.

891
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000
That word repentance is so powerful. Turn

892
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000
around. Change your mind.

893
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Another one is realign your thoughts with his.

894
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Which is again changing your mind. But it's

895
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
not just changing your mind. It's changing your mind

896
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
to his. It's embracing

897
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
this thing called the mind of Christ where we say

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00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000
I want to align with,

899
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000
I want to agree with what

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00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
God, whatever God says is sin

901
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000
I'm going to agree with that.

902
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Whatever God says is off limits. I want to

903
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,000
agree with that. And that's

904
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
where you realign yourself with

905
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000
him. And you turn.

906
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000
And when you do he's right there.

907
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,000
He didn't leave you.

908
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,000
He didn't walk away from you. We walked away from

909
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
him. But when we turn around he's right there.

910
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
And Peter's first sermon

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00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,000
he preached when the Holy Spirit came.

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00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
The people were saying what must we do to be saved?

913
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
He says repent and be baptized

914
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
every one of you. But then

915
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
he makes a great promise from the way he says

916
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000
that times of refreshing may

917
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000
come from the presence of the Lord.

918
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000
Repentance has become a dirty word and there's no need

919
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
for it to be. It is literally

920
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
the door. It is the door

921
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000
to the narrow way that brings

922
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000
you into the presence of God. And God's saying

923
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000
hey I want to refresh you. It's beautiful.

924
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
I want to bless you with my

925
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,000
presence and here's the access and the entrance

926
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000
into that. And what happens

927
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
is because people think in terms of

928
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,000
okay so I got to die to myself.

929
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,000
I got to carry my cross.

930
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000
This sounds like I'm going to be dragging

931
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000
my faith around like a ball and chain.

932
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,000
Like this is just something

933
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
heavy lifting all the time and

934
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000
I'm going to go around in sackcloth

935
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
and ashes. I'm going to be sullen.

936
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
But that's actually

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00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
the opposite. I've

938
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,000
never been more free in my

939
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000
life when I have learned

940
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,000
the value of restraint of my

941
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000
flesh. That frees

942
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
me. That's right. It's because we move

943
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000
past chasing elusive happiness

944
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,000
and we experience something much

945
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
deeper that the Bible calls joy.

946
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Joy that emanates

947
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
from your heart and your soul

948
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
that's irregardless of your circumstances

949
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,000
and there is no replacement

950
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000
for true joy. That expresses

951
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
itself. I just thought about myself. I walked out

952
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000
on the back porch last night

953
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000
and we live across this beautiful

954
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000
cross up on the hill across the highway

955
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000
from where we live. We live out in the country and it's

956
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000
actually a wedding venue that

957
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
has this massive cross. It's lit up at night

958
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,000
so when I walk out on my back patio

959
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,000
to let Chevy go do his business at night

960
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
before we go to bed I always

961
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000
walk out and stand

962
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000
out there and just look up at that cross.

963
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Man, it's had some crazy

964
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
beautiful views. Full moon coming up behind

965
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,000
it a few nights ago last week

966
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000
or I see fog up on the hill because

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00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,000
it's pretty high and it's just

968
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000
a stunning view. I walk

969
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
out and here's how

970
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
it plays out for me. I

971
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
always say good evening Holy

972
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
Spirit. Good evening

973
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Lord Jesus. Good

974
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
evening Abba Father.

975
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,000
All three of those descriptors

976
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Holy, Lord and

977
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000
Abba are very meaningful to me. They're

978
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,000
very powerful to me and I'm very

979
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000
intentional when I use those, that

980
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000
terminology

981
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
and those descriptors.

982
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000
What I'm realizing is that

983
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,000
I know that I'm walking in

984
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
joy and holiness

985
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000
and purity when I'm smiling

986
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000
and nobody's looking.

987
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000
I mean think about it.

988
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000
We usually smile because somebody smiled

989
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,000
at us or we're smiling at somebody.

990
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
We're trying to convey something. Whether

991
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
it's walking through a grocery store and just nodding

992
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000
and smiling at somebody or talking

993
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000
to who's checking you out. How's your day going?

994
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Hey, what are you most thankful for? You know, whatever you're

995
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
doing, which I did a few of those

996
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,000
on the trip as well. Good

997
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
responses. Awesome. Great opportunities

998
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000
for God conversations. But anyway, it's another

999
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
story. But I'm finding

1000
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000
that I am smiling

1001
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
and there's nobody around.

1002
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Nobody's looking. And I, it's

1003
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
almost weird to me a little bit like,

1004
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000
why are you smiling?

1005
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
It's because my buckets are overflowing

1006
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
with the joy of the Lord. Why?

1007
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Because I've crucified the flesh

1008
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000
and I'm growing. This is always

1009
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000
an ongoing thing, by the way.

1010
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
There are setbacks. There are moments. There are like

1011
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
moments where you pull what

1012
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000
Pastor Duane Sherriff calls a big piece of stupid.

1013
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
You know, you just pull these

1014
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
and go, where did that come from?

1015
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000
I got mad if they got driving or whatever.

1016
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000
But I'm finding that

1017
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
part of the outflow of that in just

1018
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
a natural way is when I catch

1019
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,000
myself smiling for no reason

1020
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
whatsoever and nobody's

1021
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
around. That's amazing. It sounds

1022
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
simple, but that's

1023
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,000
joy that's overflowing.

1024
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,000
It's just coming out of you and you can't even help it.

1025
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Well, real freedom at the end

1026
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
of the day usually means freedom

1027
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
from ourselves. You know,

1028
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
we're often our own worst enemy.

1029
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
No doubt. And whether it's

1030
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
through our own thoughts and

1031
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
motives and desires and things

1032
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000
like that. And when God, we begin to

1033
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
allow God to reshape those things in us

1034
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000
and that deep

1035
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
joy begins to emerge out of our hearts, you

1036
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,000
can't help but smile. I love that.

1037
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
So let's connect this now to culture

1038
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000
because I went to a

1039
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,000
conference called Culture in

1040
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Christianity and it was all about

1041
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
engaging culture. And

1042
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
then you're preaching sermons that talk about

1043
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
the holiness of God, the

1044
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
fear of the Lord, guardrails on our

1045
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
lives, the narrow road. I mean, these

1046
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,000
are heavy, heavy topics. And yet

1047
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000
what does that

1048
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
have to do with real life? What does that

1049
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
have to do with the culture we live in

1050
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
or the politics that's

1051
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000
happening all around us and what's happening

1052
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,000
in the world today? What do any of those things have

1053
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
to do with anything in life? Should

1054
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
we just keep this in the church? Everything

1055
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,000
to do with all of it. Wait, I thought this was

1056
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000
just for Sunday morning. Oh my gosh.

1057
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Well, that's where we've gone wrong, isn't

1058
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
it? I mean, it's

1059
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000
confusing and it doesn't even compute

1060
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
in people's brains and hearts

1061
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
to try to live a,

1062
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
it really becomes a double life of

1063
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000
I've got my life of faith that's

1064
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000
relegated to a

1065
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
couple isolated times during the week

1066
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
and then I've got my job

1067
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
and my family and I've

1068
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000
got my politics

1069
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
and all these things happening in the world.

1070
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
It's like we've been sold this lie

1071
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000
that those all have to be separate arenas

1072
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
and yet our faith

1073
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000
and truth and our relationship

1074
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
with God is meant to inform our

1075
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
response to all of those areas

1076
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000
and in fact we are

1077
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000
mandated with a responsibility

1078
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000
to bear light and to

1079
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
bear truth and to be salt

1080
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000
in every arena of life.

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
And if we don't do that,

1082
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000
then we are failing

1083
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000
in the very mission for which

1084
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000
we've been sent as believers.

1085
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000
From the very foundation

1086
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
of our nation, they always

1087
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000
look to God, they call it in providence

1088
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000
or the God of nature, nature's God.

1089
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000
They were referred to in

1090
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000
the Declaration of Independence.

1091
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
I love this statement from Benjamin

1092
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Franklin because in

1093
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
order to say that we have a right

1094
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
to speak into culture

1095
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000
and a call, we need to go back to

1096
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000
our original documents, our founding documents

1097
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
and say, in the original

1098
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
documents, we're talking about the doctrines of

1099
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000
these things. In our original

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documents, was

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the idea that this

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00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
nation was founded on

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00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
biblical principles and biblical values.

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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
And a lot of revisionist

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00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
historians and secular historians

1106
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000
are trying, they're not trying, they're

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00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
writing God out of history.

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
So the students being

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00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
taught in federally and state-funded

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00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
schools are not being taught

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00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
the actual original documents

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00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
that when you go back into the documents and look

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00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
at the handwritten notes,

1114
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000
they're saying things like Benjamin Franklin

1115
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
was a deist and an agnostic, he wasn't

1116
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000
a Christian, which is not true by the way.

1117
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000
In fact, let me read this to you, this is from Benjamin

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00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Franklin who by the way was one of

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
the framers of the Constitution of the United

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00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000
States of America. He said this

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00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000
as he was aging, he wrote to

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00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000
a friend, the longer I live,

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00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000
the more convincing proofs

1124
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000
I see of this truth that

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00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
God governs in the affairs of

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00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000
men. That doesn't sound like a deist to me.

1127
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Or an agnostic.

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000
And if a sparrow cannot

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00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000
fall to the ground without his notice,

1130
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,000
is it probable that an empire can

1131
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000
rise without his aid?

1132
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
We have been assured, sir, in the

1133
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000
sacred writings, i.e.

1134
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000
the Bible, that except

1135
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
the Lord build, they labor

1136
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000
in vain that build it.

1137
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
That's Benjamin Franklin

1138
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000
saying, giving credit

1139
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000
where credit's due, and saying,

1140
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000
understanding that even the older he

1141
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000
gets, he realizes more and more how God

1142
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
governs the affairs of men.

1143
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
The reason I bring that up is because

1144
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
we're living in a day now

1145
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000
where people are,

1146
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
secular culture is saying, you keep

1147
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000
your religion in your church.

1148
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
You stay in your lane over there.

1149
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000
And yet there are pastors

1150
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000
beginning to stand up and realize

1151
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
that we've been sold

1152
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000
a bill of goods. We bought a lie

1153
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
started in 1954

1154
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000
when Lyndon B. Johnson, as

1155
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
a legislature before he was president,

1156
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000
drafted a bill that said

1157
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
that anyone that had a non-profit

1158
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000
organization, aka

1159
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
churches and non-profit organizations,

1160
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
could not endorse

1161
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
political candidates.

1162
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000
And that got extrapolated and

1163
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000
expanded to say you can't even talk about

1164
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000
politics, which isn't what it said.

1165
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000
But it got interpreted

1166
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000
that way. So much so

1167
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000
that a whole generation of preachers,

1168
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
pastors, and leaders came up

1169
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
through the church being told

1170
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
in school, I was told this,

1171
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
do not talk about politics

1172
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000
in the pulpit. You will risk your

1173
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000
501c3 status. You could lose

1174
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000
all your benefits. You could lose

1175
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000
all your tax exemptions.

1176
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000
You'll get in trouble. The ACLU

1177
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000
will come after you. I mean we were scared.

1178
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000
And so

1179
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000
all of us graduating from these seminaries

1180
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000
and schools, getting our masters,

1181
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
degrees, and ministry

1182
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
came out

1183
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000
emasculated.

1184
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
We came out anemic.

1185
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Well, what we've

1186
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000
done without realizing it is

1187
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000
we've actually abdicated

1188
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000
positions of leadership

1189
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000
and authority in

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00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
every sphere of

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00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
government, politics,

1192
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
and even

1193
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
corporations within our nation

1194
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
over time. I mean, if you look at

1195
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000
things like our university systems,

1196
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000
the vast majority of them,

1197
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the Ivy League ones now that

1198
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000
where crazy stuff is happening, they were

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founded by pastors. Exactly.

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00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
To proclaim the gospel.

1201
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000
To equip young people

1202
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000
to be missionaries to take the

1203
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000
gospel around the world. And yet now

1204
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
those have become the very places

1205
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
where Christianity

1206
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000
is most rejected.

1207
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000
I mean, whether it's our hospital systems

1208
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
that were created out of a

1209
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desire, a Christian biblical

1210
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000
desire to care for the

1211
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hurting and the sick,

1212
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
now have become, you know, for-profit

1213
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000
corporations. Greed and lust.

1214
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Greed. Power. Our government

1215
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000
was founded by a group of

1216
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000
people who left a place

1217
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
that had

1218
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
prohibited them from the free

1219
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
practice of serving God and speaking

1220
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000
truth. And they said, we want to go to a place

1221
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
where we can establish things the

1222
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
right way, where we can openly worship

1223
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000
and openly serve God and speak

1224
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000
truth to one another and

1225
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000
lead based on these principles.

1226
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
That's why this whole experiment began.

1227
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000
So now what happens is

1228
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000
when we as pastors, you,

1229
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000
me, others in our sphere of

1230
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
influence and other friends who are

1231
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000
pastors and leaders, when we

1232
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
start speaking out

1233
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
into culture, it sounds

1234
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000
foreign. And yet

1235
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
historically through the church, especially

1236
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000
in America, pastors

1237
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
were always speaking out

1238
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000
into culture. In fact, those

1239
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000
that framed the original documents,

1240
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
whether it was the Mayflower Compact, whether it was

1241
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
the Connecticut

1242
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Constitution, whether it was

1243
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
the Declaration of Independence Bill, all of them,

1244
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
all of the topics

1245
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000
in those were preached

1246
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000
in churches before they were ever drafted

1247
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,000
into documents. And the

1248
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
drafters of those, many of them were

1249
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
pastors, many of them were deacons,

1250
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
many of them, all of them

1251
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000
attended church for the most part.

1252
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
And when they drafted that, it all

1253
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000
came out of the sermons that had been

1254
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000
preached prior to that. But you won't read

1255
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
that in your history books in the public school.

1256
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000
You won't get the truth.

1257
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000
Pastors were often governors

1258
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
and mayors and statesmen

1259
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000
and senators. William Bradford, one of the

1260
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000
first ones, first colonists,

1261
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000
was a governor. That's right. And

1262
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000
he led his, his,

1263
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
this became the state

1264
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
of Rhode Island, but he led his

1265
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
with, he would preach

1266
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000
on Sundays and he would govern

1267
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
throughout the week. And he didn't see

1268
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
a difference between being a governor and a preacher.

1269
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
I mean, a pastor. But what's

1270
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
happened today is pastors have been

1271
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
scared and they've been threatened.

1272
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
And by the way, in the last 70 years

1273
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000
since that bill came out in 1954,

1274
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
do you know how many lawsuits

1275
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
have been brought against churches

1276
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
for preaching politics in the pulpit?

1277
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Two, right? Two. Guess how many? One.

1278
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Zero.

1279
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
In other words, this isn't going to happen.

1280
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
It's an empty threat. It's an empty threat.

1281
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000
And there are lawyers

1282
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000
standing by to protect pastors

1283
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000
right now. I know this for a fact,

1284
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
that if they are to stand and speak

1285
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
into what's going on in culture and they were ever

1286
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000
to be threatened by ACLU or anybody

1287
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
else, there's a

1288
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000
large army of attorneys

1289
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
ready to go to war.

1290
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000
We do not have to be afraid.

1291
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
And we need to re-embrace our

1292
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000
calling to be culture shapers,

1293
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
difference makers, and world changers.

1294
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
You know, and I think an important

1295
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
statement to make too is that in doing

1296
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
this, this does not

1297
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
mean that we are here as the

1298
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
church to prop up a man or a woman.

1299
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000
Exactly. You know what I mean?

1300
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000
This isn't about a political candidate at all.

1301
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
This isn't about saying,

1302
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Donald Trump is great, or we like

1303
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Joe Biden, or it's all about

1304
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000
Robert Kennedy. You name the

1305
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000
person who is out there right now. There is

1306
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000
a lot of fallible, broken

1307
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000
people who are attempting to

1308
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000
step into positions of

1309
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000
leadership, and none of them have the capacity

1310
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000
to do things God's way

1311
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000
fully. None of them do.

1312
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000
And none of them are the hope of our future

1313
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000
or the hope of our salvation. Only Jesus

1314
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
is. But we have a responsibility

1315
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
as God's people

1316
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
to speak openly

1317
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,000
and loudly about truth,

1318
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000
about righteousness, about what is evil,

1319
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
and what is good, and demand it from

1320
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000
our leaders, regardless of who

1321
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000
they are, and refuse to

1322
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
put people in power to whatever

1323
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000
say we have in it, who are

1324
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000
going to openly do things that

1325
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000
God says are evil and wrong.

1326
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000
The Church has always been the conscious

1327
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
of the state. Always.

1328
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
You go back in the history of the Old Testament,

1329
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
the prophets spoke to kings.

1330
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
They counseled kings.

1331
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
They brought God's Word to kings.

1332
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000
They returned nations

1333
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000
to the Scriptures.

1334
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000
And so, we think

1335
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
now, for example,

1336
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000
you and I are supposed to be

1337
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000
experts on the first century history,

1338
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
culture, everything about what was

1339
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
going on, but in the 21st

1340
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
century, we're expected to be quiet

1341
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
and not know anything, not engage,

1342
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
not do anything. I mean, the hypocrisy

1343
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000
of that. No, you stay in your lane,

1344
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000
pastor. You preach your

1345
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000
sermons on Sunday. In fact,

1346
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Adolf Hitler told,

1347
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
I can't remember

1348
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
his name, but he was a contemporary of

1349
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Bonhoeffer. He was a pastor who

1350
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
was, he thought he was a friend of Hitler.

1351
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000
Hitler had met with him and said,

1352
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000
look, when I rise to be chancellor,

1353
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
churches are going to be safe.

1354
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000
We know he was a liar, a narcissist, a

1355
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000
liar, psychopath.

1356
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
The churches are going to be safe, but y'all

1357
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
stay over there. Mind your business.

1358
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
And we're not going to touch you.

1359
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
And so, it started with an N.

1360
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000
It was no Mueller or no Hewler

1361
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000
or something like that.

1362
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
He was saying,

1363
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
so he kept his head down, whereas Bonhoeffer

1364
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
was speaking up, and they were friends.

1365
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
And

1366
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
after

1367
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Hitler came to power,

1368
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000
this guy, this pastor,

1369
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000
tried to meet with him. It took him 12 months

1370
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
to get a meeting with him. When he finally got a

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00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000
meeting, you got it there? Martin Niemoller.

1372
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
There it is, Niemoller. Got it. Thank you.

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So, when Niemoller finally got

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an audience with Hitler,

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00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
he brought him into the room. When he entered

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00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000
the room, there were men waiting

1377
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000
there, these cronies of

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00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000
the Nazi regime of Hitler.

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00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000
They were waiting for him, and they had

1380
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
pads with things written down on it.

1381
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
They had recorded his phone calls.

1382
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000
He didn't even know it. This is

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00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
back in the 30s.

1384
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000
They were recording his phone calls and

1385
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000
said, on this day, you said this

1386
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000
about the Nazi,

1387
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000
about the Reich, the Third Reich.

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00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000
You said this. You chuckled when you

1389
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000
said this. And they so

1390
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000
disarmed him before he even walked in

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00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000
to talk to Hitler about what was going on,

1392
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
that he was... And then

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00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000
Hitler ran it on him for 30 minutes.

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00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000
Oh my gosh. And then

1395
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000
one of the things Hitler said to him, he said,

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00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000
I made the Third

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00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000
Reich. He said,

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000
you go make your sermons.

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00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
I mean, that was it. He was saying, you have

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00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000
no part in this. And he

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00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000
left berated. Then he got arrested,

1402
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
and then he served in a concentration

1403
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000
camp for eight

1404
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000
years for this.

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00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000
Because when he came out of that meeting,

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00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
he realized he had been lied to.

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00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000
He realized he had

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00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000
bought the lie, and he flipped

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00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000
and he started speaking against and speaking

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00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
into culture. And then he spent

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00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
eight years in prison for it.

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00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
He survived. Coming out,

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00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000
he wrote a really well-known poem

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00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000
that basically says this.

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00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
You may remember this. I'll just give you the gist of it.

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00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
He said,

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00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000
they came after the Socialists,

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00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
but I was not a Socialist,

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00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
so I said nothing.

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00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000
They came after the Communists, but I was not

1421
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
a Communist, so I said nothing.

1422
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
They came after the Jews,

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00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000
but I'm not a Jew, so I said nothing.

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00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000
And then they came after us.

1425
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
And there was no one left to speak up

1426
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000
for me.

1427
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000
It's a famous poem

1428
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000
by him. But anyway, all that to say

1429
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000
is this idea that

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00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000
preachers, pastors

1431
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000
shouldn't speak into culture,

1432
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000
and yet what we see is preachers and

1433
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
pastors to actually shape the

1434
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000
foundations of our nation as we

1435
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
know it. Greatest nations ever

1436
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000
been here, which now is being

1437
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
undermined by Marxists and Neo and

1438
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000
Trans Maoism,

1439
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000
where they're trying to destroy three things.

1440
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000
Faith, family,

1441
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000
and freedom. And the truth is

1442
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000
none of this means that

1443
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000
we need to stand up and be belligerent

1444
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000
and angry and abusive or

1445
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
violent or any of that stuff.

1446
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000
None of that stuff is going to produce the righteousness

1447
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000
of God. Exactly. Agreed.

1448
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
But what we do need to do is be bold

1449
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
and courageous

1450
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
and open and truthful

1451
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000
and open our mouths and

1452
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
speak. And things

1453
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,000
that should not be permitted,

1454
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000
we need to say these things should not be

1455
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
permitted. For example,

1456
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
we need to show up at a school board meeting.

1457
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Not to be violent,

1458
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
not to be rate,

1459
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000
not to

1460
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000
be belligerent, but to

1461
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000
show up to say we are concerned

1462
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000
about what we're seeing, what we're

1463
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000
hearing. We love you.

1464
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000
That'll never change.

1465
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
But we need to speak into what's

1466
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000
happening here.

1467
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000
I think we've lost sight

1468
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000
of the authority that we carry

1469
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000
as believers

1470
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
who have the Holy Spirit of the

1471
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Living God on the inside of us.

1472
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
I think it's in 2 Thessalonians

1473
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000
chapter 2. It

1474
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000
refers to the Holy Spirit.

1475
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
One of His functions and roles within us

1476
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000
is as the Restrainer.

1477
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
And the Bible says that

1478
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000
the presence of God through the Holy Spirit

1479
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000
in His people literally

1480
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000
restrains evil by

1481
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
God's power. Just the fact

1482
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000
that we are here and that

1483
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
we are standing and not leaning,

1484
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
that we are

1485
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000
our allegiance is

1486
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
firmly with Jesus and we're not afraid to say

1487
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000
it. Just that fact alone,

1488
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000
the presence of God

1489
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
inside us will restrain

1490
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000
and hold back evil. And so, a lot

1491
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000
of times we just need to be present.

1492
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
We just need to show up and we just

1493
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000
need to realize we do have a place in

1494
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000
these arenas and we do have

1495
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000
authority that we carry that extends

1496
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000
beyond the natural.

1497
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000
Extends beyond what would even make sense

1498
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
logically. That when we pray and when we

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00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
speak truth and when we show up,

1500
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
the Spirit in us will restrain

1501
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
things from happening.

1502
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000
Interestingly, we talked about the End Times earlier.

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00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
One of the things that's going to happen

1504
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000
when the Church is raptured is the Restrainer

1505
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
is going to be removed and that is

1506
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000
what is going to allow for the Antichrist

1507
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000
to finally come on the scene.

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00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
He can't do it until the Restrainer is removed.

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00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
And there are different thoughts

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00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
on who the Restrainer is. Is the

1511
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000
Strainer of the Holy Spirit or is

1512
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000
the Restrainer of the Church when the Church is

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00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000
raptured? See, there are various

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00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000
I think it's both because they are one

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00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000
and the same. Yes, they are. Right? Yeah, exactly.

1516
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
You can't really separate the two.

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00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Two weeks ago, I love what you said there,

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00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
the word that I would say is

1519
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
the word jurisdiction. That's good.

1520
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000
And so I met this guy, his name is Bill Jack.

1521
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000
He is a prolific

1522
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000
he founded an

1523
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
organization that teaches apologetics

1524
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000
to gap year

1525
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
students and young people and

1526
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000
sends them off to school before they get

1527
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000
obliterated by the secular humanists

1528
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000
that are running our schools. Wow.

1529
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000
And ripping away, ripping

1530
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000
to shred people's faith. So they

1531
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000
do these camps all over

1532
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000
and they go to public

1533
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000
state colleges.

1534
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000
They rent a room and they do these camps

1535
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
like for a week and they just

1536
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
fill them full of

1537
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
who they are, what they need to know,

1538
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
how to defend their faith.

1539
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
And his name is Bill Jack.

1540
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000
He was in our church two weeks ago.

1541
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
His daughter attends here.

1542
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
She is one of our Bridgers. And

1543
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
he lives in Colorado. So he shows up

1544
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
and he made a beeline to me after church.

1545
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000
And he is like,

1546
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Pastor, this is rare.

1547
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
I can't believe I came to church

1548
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
and you are talking about these things. This is what I

1549
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
do. And he said, you don't know

1550
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
how rare this is. How many churches

1551
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000
I go to and no pastors ever

1552
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000
address what is going on culturally.

1553
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Never speak truth to power.

1554
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000
They are afraid to say anything.

1555
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000
He said, this is what I do.

1556
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000
I train and equip the next generation

1557
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000
to go out there and stand their ground, stand

1558
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000
firm. And he gave me the word. He said,

1559
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
let me give you a word that may help you think

1560
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000
this or frame or reframe

1561
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
what you are thinking. He said,

1562
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000
it is the word jurisdiction.

1563
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000
So I did a little study on that word

1564
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
and the idea of jurisdiction

1565
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
is that it is a conferred

1566
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000
space.

1567
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000
It is a conferred realm.

1568
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000
It is a conferred place

1569
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
of authority. Where you

1570
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000
have authority, not in

1571
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
yourself, but it has been conferred to you.

1572
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000
It has been delegated, maybe a better

1573
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000
word. It is delegated authority.

1574
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000
When you think about what Jesus did during

1575
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000
the Great Commission, what He did before

1576
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000
He sent the disciples out two by two

1577
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000
to give them authority,

1578
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
exousia, over

1579
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000
demons and spirits

1580
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000
and all that.

1581
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000
Jesus was constantly taking

1582
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000
His exousia,

1583
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000
His jurisdiction and giving it to

1584
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000
us and saying, now go.

1585
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000
It is the idea of being an ambassador.

1586
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
Exactly. Diplomatic

1587
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000
immunity, right?

1588
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000
They speak on behalf of the

1589
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000
government that they represent.

1590
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Bingo. When He said that word to me, it

1591
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
went off in my chest like a bomb.

1592
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000
I was like, that is thunder in my soul

1593
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000
right there. Jurisdiction,

1594
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
I have been mulling that over.

1595
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000
Sitting here over the weekend,

1596
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Eric Metaxas,

1597
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Pastor Alan Jackson,

1598
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Chad Rubino,

1599
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Kaylee McAnally, Kurt Cameron,

1600
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000
hearing all these speakers,

1601
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000
the word that kept pinging

1602
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000
is jurisdiction. We have

1603
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,000
insulated our jurisdiction.

1604
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000
It is time to take it back.

1605
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000
But again, not through violence, not

1606
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000
through belligerence, through wisdom.

1607
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Through wisdom and through

1608
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000
confidence in who we are in Christ.

1609
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000
Not in who we are ourselves.

1610
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
We don't go in beating our chests.

1611
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
We go in, we suit up, we show

1612
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
up and the Holy Spirit

1613
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
goes before us

1614
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
and massages atmospheres

1615
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000
and changes

1616
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
atmospheres when we walk in a room.

1617
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000
You know what Jesus told his disciples

1618
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000
when he sent them out? He said,

1619
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
don't worry about what you are going to say

1620
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000
when you go. He said the Holy Spirit

1621
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
will give you what to say

1622
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000
when you are there. The key is

1623
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000
that you have to show up and you have to be

1624
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
willing, you have to be ready and you have to

1625
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
position your heart in such a way

1626
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000
that God can cooperate

1627
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000
with you and speak through you.

1628
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
I love that.

1629
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000
What if, we have in our

1630
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000
church on a given Sunday, we are between

1631
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
600 and 650. That's our pretty

1632
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
average attendance. But in a

1633
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000
given month, you are looking more at like 800

1634
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000
people that come through

1635
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
at various times because everybody

1636
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000
comes at the same time. If we all showed up at the same time

1637
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
we couldn't keep, we didn't have room for everybody.

1638
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000
But think about the power

1639
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
of that in a community.

1640
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Of 800 people

1641
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
who decided to together

1642
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
wake up

1643
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,000
and to stand.

1644
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,000
I don't care how large a community you have,

1645
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
that's powerful.

1646
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
We are a small community. That's close to

1647
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
that's not quite 10 percent.

1648
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,000
But that's 8 percent

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00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,000
of our community

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00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,000
give or take.

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00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,000
The power of that showing up to

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000
a meeting, whether it's a school

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00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
board meeting, whether it's

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00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000
a city

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00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000
council meeting, whether it's

1656
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
some kind of meeting in terms of the community.

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00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Not to protest,

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00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
but I will say we

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00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
do need to resist.

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
We are representing

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00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
the kingdom that we are

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00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,000
a part of. Yes. Exactly.

1663
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000
In these arenas. If we don't do it

1664
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
who will? And we are reclaiming

1665
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000
ground and territory.

1666
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000
I said this in a sermon two weeks ago.

1667
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000
Ground lost is difficult

1668
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000
to regain. It's hard

1669
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
to get back. But it's doable. I believe

1670
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
that. And so though we

1671
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,000
have capitulated territory

1672
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,000
over the years and we bought

1673
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000
lies, particularly

1674
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,000
1954's law about

1675
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,000
jurisdiction. Now we

1676
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,000
need to regain that ground.

1677
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,000
We need to reestablish our jurisdiction

1678
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,000
and be unapologetic.

1679
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Not be belligerent, but be

1680
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,000
firm. Absolutely. This is who we are.

1681
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,000
We have the original documents. We've got

1682
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,000
the receipts. We don't have to be ashamed.

1683
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,000
And the

1684
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,000
stakes that are at play here go beyond

1685
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000
what policies

1686
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000
are being enacted and

1687
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,000
what things are being brought into law.

1688
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Are those things important? Absolutely.

1689
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,000
But what's at stake even above and

1690
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,000
beyond that is just

1691
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,000
the ability

1692
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,000
for truth to reign

1693
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,000
in the land and for our children

1694
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000
and our children's children to

1695
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000
live in a place

1696
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,000
where they're going to

1697
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,000
have the greatest opportunity to know

1698
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,000
who Jesus is.

1699
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,000
Wow. What you just said

1700
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,000
really resonates because the

1701
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,000
reason why we need to be doing this

1702
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000
is not for us. It's for

1703
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,000
the next generation.

1704
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
I think about the reason why we

1705
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,000
have been given, the reason

1706
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,000
why hundreds of kids can show

1707
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
up on college campuses and pitch

1708
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,000
tents and protest

1709
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,000
and hatred against Israel as

1710
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,000
vile as that feels

1711
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,000
to me, as demonic

1712
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,000
as that is and satanic as that is

1713
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000
because it is. But the reason

1714
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,000
they can do that is because

1715
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
people laid down their lives,

1716
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
sacrificed their temporary

1717
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,000
comfort so that a

1718
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,000
generation after them could walk

1719
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,000
in freedom and have

1720
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,000
the freedom to speak even if it's wrong.

1721
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Even if it's wrong. Even if it's bad.

1722
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,000
I've been hit on social

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00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,000
media a lot lately. I'm getting crushed.

1724
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,000
We sent that reel out.

1725
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
It's gotten over a thousand views, that one

1726
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000
of me going there.

1727
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
And I've had some really ugly stuff

1728
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000
come up because we sponsored it. So

1729
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,000
it went out broader than our typical

1730
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,000
band of people. And I've

1731
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
gotten a lot of hits back. And

1732
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,000
every one of them is a reminder

1733
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,000
for me to pray for that person by name. So hey,

1734
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,000
do your worst. Say what you need to say.

1735
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,000
You're just getting on a prayer list.

1736
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,000
I'm praying for those individuals.

1737
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
Now I have your name. Now I have a target.

1738
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,000
So you just exposed yourself

1739
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,000
by... You can't make us not love you.

1740
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Exactly. I love you. You can't do anything

1741
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,000
about it. But what that's telling

1742
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,000
me is that

1743
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
I said, do you think I should

1744
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,000
delete these comments? Because some of them are bad.

1745
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000
They're ugly.

1746
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Like really ridiculous.

1747
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,000
And Annette said, no.

1748
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Because what we're talking about

1749
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000
right now, they have a right to say that.

1750
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,000
And I said, you're absolutely

1751
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,000
right. I'm going to leave them be. I'm not going to

1752
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000
answer them because I don't want to just...

1753
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
The Bible says if you speak to a fool,

1754
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,000
you become a fool. So you become as

1755
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000
a fool. So I'm not going to do that. But I will

1756
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,000
pray for them. And by leaving those comments

1757
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
up there, it helps...

1758
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
It's a reminder to me that

1759
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000
not everybody thinks the way I do.

1760
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,000
Not everybody believes that Jesus is who He says He is.

1761
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,000
And I have to have

1762
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000
compassion, not empathy, but compassion

1763
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000
for that. And so you know what?

1764
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,000
They know not what they're saying.

1765
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000
And now I've got their name and I can pray

1766
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
for them and there's nothing they can do about it.

1767
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
So...

1768
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,000
If nobody has a

1769
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000
bad word to say about anything we're doing,

1770
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,000
I don't know that we're doing much. Exactly.

1771
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
If you're moving the needle,

1772
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,000
you'll know if you're over the target.

1773
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,000
Yeah. Man, brother, we could

1774
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,000
solve the rest of the world's problems, but hey,

1775
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,000
we got to get going. I got a lunch date

1776
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,000
soon. Oh my gosh, I really do

1777
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000
have to get going. Hey, bro. Thank you again for

1778
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,000
letting me join you today. Thank you for being here today.

1779
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000
For our friends, thank you for writing into

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1782
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1783
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,000
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1784
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000
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00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,000
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00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,000
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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,000
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1788
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
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1789
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000
Hit that subscribe button. Let us know you're

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00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000
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1791
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
Pastor Brian, thank you so much, bro.

1792
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Thank you and have a happy Tuesday, everybody.

1793
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:31,000
God bless. We're out.

1794
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Thank you.