"Feeling The Fire!"

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Don't get down when you're seeing the worst, 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,000 cause the last will be first. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 What a day I'm telling you, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 all things will be new. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Living up in a down world. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Yeah we're living, yeah we're living, 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 living up in a down world. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Oh! 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Hey friends, it's Dream Internet 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 and we are here to hang out with you today. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 This is Living Up in a Down World. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Thanks for joining us. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 We so appreciate you listening to the program 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 and participating with us, interacting with us, 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 especially on our website, 16 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 livingupinadownworld.com. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Keep them coming. We added several new folks. 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Hey Annette. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Hey. 20 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,000 How are you doing? 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 A lot better than I was yesterday. 22 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 You are stunning by the way. 23 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Honey. 24 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,000 If only we were on video. 25 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 No. 26 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 A vlog, a vlog cast. 27 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,000 No, no, no, no. 28 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 A vlog cast. 29 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,000 I'm sitting here in a tank top and shorts and no makeup. 30 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 That's what I'm saying. 31 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 My hair is dry from the pool cause we swam this morning. 32 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 But I, no. 33 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 You are beautiful inside and out. 34 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 I appreciate that. 35 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Let's get to our show. 36 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,000 What episode are we on? 37 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 What episode? 38 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Number 28. 39 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Wow. 40 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Okay. 41 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 That means 28 weeks of doing, living up in a down world. 42 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 That's good. 43 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 That's really. 44 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,000 We've hung in there. 45 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,000 I know. 46 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 We had a little misfire yesterday. 47 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 We tried this yesterday and we said no. 48 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000 It did not go well. 49 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,000 We weren't feeling it. 50 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:36,000 We weren't having a good day yesterday. 51 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 This is one of those, there are days when they're, you know, you and I have a rhythm, 52 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 right? 53 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 We do. 54 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 We didn't have that rhythm yesterday. 55 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 It's funny cause people comment, it's like you guys finished each other's sentences and 56 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,000 yesterday we were just off. 57 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Well, the weather was really dreary. 58 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,000 I mean we had rain off and on. 59 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:59,000 And it just was dark in the house and it just felt, I don't know, it kind of gives you this 60 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 state of depression. 61 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Even though we weren't depressed, it was just not a good day. 62 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 You're a sunshine kind of girl. 63 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Oh, I do. 64 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,000 I love the sun. 65 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,000 You love the sun. 66 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I love the sun. 67 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Everybody else is whining. 68 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Which is why I have. 69 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 It's 100 degrees and you're like, oh, let's go out. 70 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Well, and I have two skin cancer spots, but they're gone. 71 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 72 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 I'm just taking care of, take care of myself in the sun, but sometimes it just happens. 73 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 But I do, I need the sunshine. 74 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 It brings my mood up. 75 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I couldn't live in Seattle. 76 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,000 I couldn't either. 77 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:40,000 First of all, for many reasons, not just the sun, just because that Seattle, yeah. 78 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Any. 79 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Well, we have a friend who lives in Washington state. 80 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Yeah. 81 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,000 He lives in Washington right across the, the what's it called the, the, the river Gorge. 82 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Yes. 83 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 River Gorge. 84 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Anyway, he lives right across from Portland and yeah, Portland's and he, it's really hard 85 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,000 on him because he's depressed a lot. 86 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,000 That's true. 87 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,000 He does. 88 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,000 He goes through really bad. 89 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Texas. 90 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 You're not going to have that. 91 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,000 You're going to have sunshine. 92 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 I say Florida is the sunshine state. 93 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 Texas is the sunshine state. 94 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Florida probably is too. 95 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,000 It is. 96 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,000 And I love Florida as well. 97 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 So get me thinking about Destin. 98 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 I know we could still go. 99 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,000 We could still go. 100 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 White beaches. 101 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 We could, we should. 102 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Oh, by the way, the reason why we can just pick up and go is because we are on a two 103 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 month sabbatical. 104 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Can we make it three? 105 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,000 No, I'm really liking this. 106 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000 I know. 107 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I think we should try to find someone for four more weeks, three months is, is that's 108 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 the sweet spot. 109 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 I'm thinking is, is this what retirement's like? 110 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Because if it is, it's not going to happen. 111 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 I know you're right. 112 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,000 It's not going to happen. 113 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 It's not going to happen for us. 114 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:49,000 We, we literally, we can enjoy this, but I think we would just, we wouldn't have enough 115 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 purpose. 116 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,000 We need purpose. 117 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,000 We're purpose. 118 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,000 And we love people too much. 119 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 I remember that book by Rick Warren, the purpose driven life. 120 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,000 We're that. 121 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,000 I mean, really are. 122 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,000 Yes. 123 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,000 We're driven by the purpose and the purpose is the mission and the great commission, which 124 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 is to go there for make disciples of all the nations. 125 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,000 So what we're called to do. 126 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Exactly. 127 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,000 So you're right. 128 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Yeah, this is nice. 129 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,000 So we're enjoying it. 130 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 We started week three today, actually. 131 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 This is day 21 of what? 132 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 60 days, 60 ish, a little 60, 60 or something like that. 133 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 60. 134 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,000 So yeah, a little over 60 days. 135 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 And it has been such a blessing. 136 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I've told several people who've asked who said, Hey, so how's it going? 137 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,000 I'm like, this is the greatest gift in ministry that I've ever been given. 138 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Exactly. 139 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Somebody could give me a car. 140 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 I could be excited about that. 141 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 They could give me a piece of equipment. 142 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,000 I could be cool. 143 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Guitars. 144 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I've had guitars given to me. 145 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Nothing compares to this. 146 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 No, it's really a nice gift of time. 147 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Yes, I was going to say it's a nice gift of time and rest. 148 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Lots of rest. 149 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:00,000 Although we had company for a little while and it was heavy dealing with some family 150 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:07,000 that's going through some challenges in life from from past issues. 151 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 And we were dealing with that with one of our family members. 152 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 But I'm so glad they came to stay with us. 153 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Yes. 154 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 I love what I'm not going to use a name. 155 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,000 But I love what was said. 156 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Oh, FedEx is here. 157 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Don't say it out loud. 158 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 I'll start barking. 159 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,000 So if the doorbell rings, it's because we've got like a ton of stuff coming today. 160 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,000 When you live in the country like we live between Fredericksburg and Comfort or San 161 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Antonio, so we live out in the country. 162 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 So Amazon Prime, everything online is our friend. 163 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Well, today's like Christmas. 164 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 I know we were like, how did it? 165 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,000 It's like a convergence. 166 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,000 It's a prime. 167 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 There it goes. 168 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Is it Amazon Prime Day where you get all your stuff at one time? 169 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,000 I did. 170 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Oh, because I wanted less boxes. 171 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 We don't. 172 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 Thank you. 173 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Yes. 174 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Oh, my God. 175 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 I did that on purpose because usually we go to the church and drop them off. 176 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 But we haven't done that. 177 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Oh, good. 178 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Let's get back to. 179 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Yes. 180 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 So great week last week. 181 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 What was so beautiful is that two things that really stood out to me. 182 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000 One, we felt like the Lord gave us the privilege of with one of our kids of sitting and letting 183 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000 them process and unpack some trauma from the past and some things that have happened over 184 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 the years. 185 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Didn't have anything to do with us personally. 186 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:33,000 It was things that happened to to them as a child and as an adult. 187 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Some as an adult as well. 188 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:40,000 And so we the Lord gave us the privilege of hosting them for the week and not being here 189 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 to talk, but being here to listen. 190 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Exactly. 191 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 And that is what we did. 192 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,000 We spent the whole week listening and helping them process what they were going through 193 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 in major breakthroughs. 194 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 I'm so honestly, I mean, I wrote him. 195 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 I'm journaling a lot right now because of the sabbatical. 196 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,000 I've got this time and I love journaling. 197 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 I've really picked it back up. 198 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,000 I kind of let it go through the years getting busy with church and ministry and all that. 199 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 You kind of just ends up being second, third, fourth, fifth down the line. 200 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,000 And now I've been able to make that a primary thing. 201 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:21,000 But I've been able to journal things about last week that I'm just so grateful, grateful 202 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 that as parents, but also as peers kind of because our kids are grown now. 203 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 They're not children anymore. 204 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,000 They still. 205 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Sometimes we think of them that way, but now they're in a different season of life. 206 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:38,000 But I love that they trust us with challenges in their life. 207 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Isn't that the greatest way to honor your parents is to trust them? 208 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Yes, trust. 209 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Scripture says that we're to honor our parents and obey them in the Lord. 210 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:52,000 And the fact that all three of our kids trust us to tell us what's going on or to unpack 211 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,000 things and offload things. 212 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,000 We're here in this season of our lives, we're here for that. 213 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 Yeah, right. 214 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 To help them. 215 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,000 And but the second thing that was really encouraging to me, people have always said about our home 216 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,000 that there's such peace. 217 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,000 We keep hearing that even from our own children, which is pretty incredible. 218 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:20,000 That encouraged me so much because that is what we desire is to have a home of peace 219 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 or the Hebrew word is shalom. 220 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000 And it simply means complete, whole, nothing missing, nothing broken, beautiful. 221 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Not that we don't have broken things in our house, but we we really bathe our home in 222 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,000 peace. 223 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Yeah, unless we come off sounding super spiritual, we have crap just like everybody else. 224 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 It's just life happens and shift happens. 225 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 I'll say it that way. 226 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 You better be careful. 227 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,000 I'll be very careful. 228 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,000 I remember one time in church. 229 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 One time in the pulpit, I did say the word. 230 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Yes, you did. 231 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 And it was and the whole church erupted. 232 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I think we had a bigger Sunday the next week because I were hoping you would do it again. 233 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 I remember just after it happened, I stood there totally red faced. 234 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000 I just dropped the word and I said, come back to me, people. 235 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Come back. 236 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 It was over. 237 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 We just it's time to say a prayer and laugh and go home and love on each other. 238 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 And do you remember? 239 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Do you remember the one time we had someone come in and preach who who hasn't preached 240 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:26,000 at our church in years and he came in, he didn't tell us everything he was going to 241 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,000 say. 242 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,000 And he flipped the bird. 243 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Oh, my God. 244 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 I'll never forget in church. 245 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Shock and awe. 246 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 We were like, we're not going to have you back. 247 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 I could not believe he did that. 248 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,000 It was we should write a book on crazy stuff that's happened in church because we got a 249 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,000 ton of stories. 250 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 And he wasn't flipping the bird at people he was using. 251 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,000 He was giving an illustration of something that happened to him. 252 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 But I'm like, yeah, you can go too far. 253 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 You can go too far with a metaphor or illustration. 254 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Yes. 255 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 He went a little far with a little far. 256 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 And I love him. 257 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 I love him. 258 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 But that was one of our little unsettling. 259 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 That was uncool. 260 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,000 I don't even remember how the church responded. 261 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 I think I felt the I felt the bare pressure in the room change. 262 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,000 I was like all the oxygens went out of the room. 263 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 I think it was just a shock. 264 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Just total shock. 265 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 I'm glad I think that you don't do that from you and me. 266 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 I probably. 267 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 What did you just do? 268 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:28,000 So if you're a pastor or thinking about being in ministry, don't ever use the bird as an 269 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,000 illustration. 270 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Exactly. 271 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 That's how you kill a mood. 272 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I know. 273 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 We're going to start laughing. 274 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Oh, man. 275 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 We have had some funny things happen. 276 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Freaking funny. 277 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 So this week, Pastor Eddie spoke yesterday. 278 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Jimmy, it was so hard for me because I wanted to get on and just listen to him. 279 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,000 I did talk to Tina this morning and she said he was excellent. 280 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Can I set this up a little? 281 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Yeah, go ahead. 282 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Because not everybody who's listening knows what's going on. 283 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 That's true. 284 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 If you tuned in, it's like when you jump in the middle of a show or a series, we're on 285 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,000 our sabbatical and we're going by a rule book, a playbook, I'm calling it. 286 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 We're running the play. 287 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 So just use an athletic metaphor. 288 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Of course you're going to do that. 289 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 So we're running the play and the playbook was we're to completely separate from work, 290 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 which that's what a sabbatical is or a Sabbath. 291 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:26,000 If you do a weekly Sabbath, which you should be doing if you're a follower of Jesus. 292 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:32,000 But the sabbatical is once every five to seven years, you actually take an extended period. 293 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 So it's an extended Sabbath. 294 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:42,000 And the idea there is you unplug, you decompress, you rest, you disconnect, which is very hard 295 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 for me being a pastoral pastor. 296 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Oh, and it's hard for me doing the business of the church. 297 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Right. 298 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,000 So we both have our struggles that we're having to navigate. 299 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Me, FOMO, hashtag FOMO, fear of missing out, which is a real thing. 300 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 It's an actual condition. 301 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I looked it up out of curiosity because I was feeling that when we first, like the week 302 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,000 that we were about to start, I started feeling things. 303 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,000 But you don't feel that now. 304 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,000 You're actually doing better than I anticipated. 305 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,000 I thought you were going to say better than you are. 306 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Well, that's true. 307 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 You are a little bit. 308 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Maybe. 309 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Yeah. 310 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,000 It's been harder. 311 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 It has. 312 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 It has. 313 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 I've kind of just settled into it. 314 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Like I've crawled into it into a metaphorical hammock and I'm drinking sweet tea on a summer 315 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 day. 316 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000 I mean, that's how I saw a big word came to me while I was journaling the other day. 317 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 And it's the word receive. 318 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,000 I had not thought about it. 319 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 I used a lot of our words to express what a sabbatical is. 320 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,000 Why our words? 321 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Rest, restoration, recovery, rejuvenation, refilling. 322 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,000 And then I was writing in my journal, like the first week and the word receive. 323 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 And I sort of wrote it not thinking. 324 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 I was kind of free writing and I was like, that's it. 325 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:06,000 That's the essence because the nature of being in pastoral ministry is we give out nonstop 326 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 almost to a fault sometimes. 327 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 We give away so much. 328 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:16,000 In the scripture, Jesus made this comment or it says about Jesus in the book of John 329 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:24,000 that Jesus did not give himself to them or to man because he knew what was in man. 330 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,000 And there's a principle of balance and a healthy detachment, attachment. 331 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Well, he would go away for a short amount or long amounts of time. 332 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 He went away for 40 days on one shot. 333 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Just so that he could receive from the Lord. 334 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Because if you think about everything he's giving out and you have to have a time of 335 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,000 receiving so that then you'll have enough to give out. 336 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 And so he had many reprieves. 337 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Yeah, it says that he withdrew often to barren places. 338 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 But we don't do that. 339 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,000 To be with God. 340 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 We go, go, go. 341 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And then we go on vacation and we go, go, go. 342 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,000 I don't even, vacations don't excite me. 343 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,000 No, but the beach kind of still does me. 344 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Only because I love to hear the roar of the beach. 345 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,000 If we wake up one morning and we are feeling it, let's just pack a very tiny bag. 346 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Hopefully Southwest miles will be kind to us. 347 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Yeah, right. 348 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Yeah, exactly. 349 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,000 And so we may end up doing a little beach trip just to do something on this. 350 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 I didn't want to plan anything. 351 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,000 No, and I don't. 352 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Right. 353 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 I don't either. 354 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Not planning it. 355 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,000 So anyway, that's what we're in the middle of. 356 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Well, I say in the middle, not even in the middle. 357 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 So we're three weeks in. 358 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,000 It has been for me, I feel like I'm breathing air, fresh air, clean air. 359 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:52,000 I'm seeing God do some amazing things in you though that I haven't, I don't think I've ever witnessed to this extent. 360 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Thank you. 361 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Because you're more excited about the Word than I've ever seen you. 362 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Not that you weren't before, but there is a... 363 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Oh, the Word of God is coming alive. 364 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,000 It's so coming alive. 365 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,000 And you're already like, okay, I want to do this series, I want to do this series, I want to do this. 366 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,000 And I'm like, okay, don't even talk about it till the very end because you're going to... 367 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,000 So much. 368 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,000 It's going to culminate into something really beautiful by the time you're done. 369 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Thank you for saying that because that really is what's happening right now. 370 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,000 The Word of God has come alive to me. 371 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,000 Now, I'm activating something called Lectio Divina. 372 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:36,000 I'm stepping into a process of where you read, you meditate, you pray, and then you contemplate. 373 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Not a long passage, but a short, like a one verse or even a phrase or a sentence like, 374 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:50,000 He leads me beside still waters, and instead of going on and reading the rest of Psalm 23, you stop. 375 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,000 And you meditate, you pray, and then you contemplate that. 376 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,000 And then you journal about it, you write about it. 377 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,000 It's a good way to express it. 378 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Then you start the cycle all over again with the next verse. 379 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 So I'm slow reading the Bible. 380 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 In fact, I had these ambitions when we started this. 381 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 I was going to read some books. 382 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,000 But what I'm finding is that the Lord has slowed me down and said, 383 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 why do you think you've got to somehow check off a list of books to read? 384 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 How about reading two verses? 385 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 So I'm focusing on Psalm 23 right now. 386 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 That's good. 387 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,000 That's really good. 388 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 The 23rd Psalm has... 389 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 It's so packed with nuggets and wisdom. 390 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 What I will say about it is that years ago, I always kind of relegated that to, 391 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 oh yeah, that's a nice, sweet sentiment. 392 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,000 I don't know why. 393 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Maybe because it seemed overused in some context. 394 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 As I've grown and gotten older and into this season, 395 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 I'm beginning to see the power in that verse. 396 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 You're making it personal. 397 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 There you go. 398 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,000 That's the difference. 399 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:02,000 When you make Scripture personal to you, it really does change everything. 400 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaking of personal, 401 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 we got to go hang out with Adam and Tina Curry. 402 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 I had a little segue there. 403 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Yes. 404 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Because we went to see a movie. 405 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 What was the name of the movie? 406 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Sound of Freedom. 407 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Tell us your take on that movie because it blew my mind. 408 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Well, I saw it a couple of years ago. 409 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Jim Caviezel came to Fredericksburg and showed it at a restaurant 410 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,000 of some owners that come go to our church. 411 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,000 We were invited and you weren't able to go. 412 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,000 I was able to attend and I was blown away by Jim's... 413 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,000 Gosh. 414 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,000 He is so... 415 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 I mean, this movie is not just about doing a movie. 416 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,000 It's in his heart. 417 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,000 It's in his soul. 418 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,000 It's his being. 419 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 He was in the passion of Christ, 420 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,000 but there's more passion in just him talking about this movie 421 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,000 and the impact it's made on his life. 422 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 It's a story of Tim Ballard and he's amazing. 423 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Amazing man of God who chose to step down from his career 424 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:12,000 in law enforcement and take on the challenge of finding 425 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,000 pedophiles but also finding the kids that these pedophiles 426 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 are trafficking across the nation. 427 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000 It's amazing. 428 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 In fact, I got on... 429 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 When I told you I was online, I was researching something. 430 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 I was looking. 431 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 It's called Operation Railroad. 432 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Underground Railroad. 433 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Yeah. 434 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Which is O-U-R. 435 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 I was looking at all their merchandise going, 436 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,000 gosh, what can I do to help support? 437 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Because that's how you support them. 438 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Other ways to just sending money. 439 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 They have merchandise. 440 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,000 I was just looking at it going, Lord, 441 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 what is it that you want us to do as a church, 442 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:58,000 as a couple to alleviate this horrific, horrific... 443 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 What? 444 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,000 I'll just say this. 445 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Okay, go ahead. 446 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,000 For one, we can't go ourselves. 447 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,000 No, no. 448 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000 That's not our call. 449 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 It's not our lane. 450 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,000 It's not our expertise. 451 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Right. 452 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 But we can, through finances and through resources, 453 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 we can support those who are doing the work. 454 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,000 Yes. 455 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 And my heart, after seeing that movie again for the second time, 456 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 because two years had passed... 457 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,000 And they edited it. 458 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,000 And they added a couple of things to it. 459 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I came home and I was researching on YouTube some of the shorts 460 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 and documentaries. 461 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 I was mesmerized by it. 462 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,000 I just continued to watch. 463 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,000 I know they're working on another movie. 464 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Jim Caviezel said we watched. 465 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 Jordan Peterson interviewed him and Tim Ballard. 466 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000 He expressed that he was working on the next movie, 467 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,000 which is actually the first operative they did, 468 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 which was in Haiti, which is going to be in the second movie. 469 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,000 And I'm just... 470 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:04,000 I guess I'm so enamored by people who have a call on their life 471 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,000 that isn't that strong, that they're willing to make a difference 472 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,000 and give up their own life for kids. 473 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,000 He quit his job. 474 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 He was a federal agent, a border patrol agent who dealt with 475 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000 pedophiles, but as he stepped into that job, he did that for 476 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,000 10 or 12 years. 477 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Yes, and he gave up his pension. 478 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Who does that? 479 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 He was what, a few months away from getting his full pension 480 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,000 from retirement. 481 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 He said around $12 million is what he... 482 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,000 It would have been ridiculous. 483 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 And his wife said no. 484 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,000 I mean, what wife says this is more important than our retirement? 485 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Go save the kids. 486 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Save these children. 487 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000 We can't wait. 488 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,000 It was so impactful. 489 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,000 So why do you think, though, there's been massive pushback 490 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,000 from the media? 491 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000 Well, because I believe that the media has something to do with it. 492 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 I think there's people... 493 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 I mean, Tim alluded to that in the documentary. 494 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 There are people benefiting in high places in our nation who are 495 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,000 benefiting from this child sex trafficking industry. 496 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000 And their executives, he said their clergymen, their judges, 497 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 their law enforcement. 498 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,000 It's unbelievable that our world is so corrupt. 499 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,000 But it always has been. 500 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,000 It's never changed. 501 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,000 My adrenaline just gets up where I just want to go. 502 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,000 I want to go country boy, let's go out behind the barn and deal 503 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,000 with this. 504 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,000 This is the stuff that fires me up because it is the atrocities 505 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 that are happening to children. 506 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Can you imagine having one of your children or all of your children 507 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,000 stolen, taken, kidnapped for the sole purpose of sex trafficking them 508 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,000 to a bunch of freaking perverts? 509 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:11,000 No, I was reading a news document on my iPhone the other day and 510 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:17,000 there was a girl, a 13-year-old girl that was, I think she was 511 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,000 just walking home from school or walking home in San Antonio, 512 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,000 which is 30 miles from here, and a gentleman, not gentleman, 513 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:33,000 a monster freak picked her up, sexually molested her. 514 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 She ended up putting a sign, they took her all the way to 515 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,000 California. 516 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,000 She put a sign up while he was in the laundromat washing clothes 517 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000 that says, please help me. 518 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000 And they were able to call the police and get this monster. 519 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:52,000 First of all, praise God that she had the mindset and was aware 520 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 of what to do to get rescued. 521 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000 But now knowing the damage that's done to her psyche and her 522 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 heart and her spirit. 523 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Is she going to trust men again? 524 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,000 I know, it's like Lord Jesus, help us. 525 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 And there's so many more stories out there. 526 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 I know, thousands, hundreds of thousands, unfortunately. 527 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Because I said there's probably over a million pedophiles, 528 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000 a million. 529 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,000 And guess who, guess what nation is the biggest purchaser and 530 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:29,000 serve what he called the biggest who purchases the most, 531 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 so to speak? 532 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 The US. 533 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000 The United States of America. 534 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000 What? 535 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Because we're so privileged, but we don't, we can't. 536 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,000 There needs to be a death blow to this industry. 537 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 We always need something else. 538 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,000 We're not satisfied with anything. 539 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,000 We always want the bigger, better thing. 540 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:58,000 The fact though that all the major news outlets have literally 541 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000 ghosted this organization. 542 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,000 Exactly. 543 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 And this movie, which has already made over $100 million, 544 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,000 flew past. 545 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Is it still on? 546 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,000 I hope it is. 547 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000 I think they had to extend it because so many people are going 548 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,000 to see it now. 549 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000 But I think the enemy, the devil, always overplays his hand. 550 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Always. 551 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,000 And I think the massive public resistance, not from people, 552 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,000 but from a handful of news outlets against this, 553 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Rolling Stone Magazine, New York Times. 554 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 They claim that it's not really happening. 555 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Yeah. 556 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 They're like, oh, those people are delusional. 557 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,000 This stuff's not real. 558 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 This isn't real in the US. 559 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000 The only person, the only kind of people that would say something 560 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 like that are pedophiles. 561 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000 I'm just going to say it out loud. 562 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Is because they're protecting something. 563 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Why would you ghost something? 564 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,000 I cannot believe someone who could be so inhumane as to think 565 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,000 that it's okay to rape. 566 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 And some of the descriptions that have happened to these children 567 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 remind me of these. 568 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Or use these kids for organs. 569 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,000 And they videotape them. 570 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Yes. 571 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,000 And they send it out on the dark web and all these freaks and 572 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 perverts are getting off on watching these kids being raped. 573 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Are getting off on watching these kids getting their bones broken. 574 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Right. 575 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000 I mean, it gets me really angry. 576 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Well, this is probably an area that gets you more angry than 577 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,000 anything since I've known you. 578 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Well, because I worked in the children in a foster care agency. 579 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 I did too. 580 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Two foster care agencies. 581 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000 But you worked directly with the kids. 582 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,000 I worked in foster care with children who had been so horrifically abused. 583 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,000 And the things you read to me. 584 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,000 I've seen the damage. 585 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Yes. 586 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 And have walked with children through this. 587 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 So, yeah, this is near and dear to my heart. 588 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 But I believe it's more so near and dear to Jesus' heart. 589 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 It sure is. 590 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,000 And people would say, why didn't God just intervene? 591 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,000 Because He gave us a will. 592 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Gave us a free will. 593 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Love isn't love unless it's freedom. 594 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,000 And so unfortunately, freedom works both ways. 595 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Freedom works in you're free to and you're free not to. 596 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Right. 597 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,000 You're free to surrender and you're free to resist. 598 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,000 And so for those who have resisted God and resisted God's willing 599 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,000 and God's call on their life, they fall. 600 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 I mean, when you're in sin, you're insane. 601 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Right. 602 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 I'll never forget someone saying that to us years ago. 603 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,000 And it sure makes sense. 604 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 You're insane. 605 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Right. 606 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,000 So those that have rejected God and rejected righteousness 607 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000 and rejected right living and rejected Jesus, 608 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 they fall into that category. 609 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,000 They literally lose all sense of there's no moral compass. 610 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,000 There's no true north. 611 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 There's no absolutes. 612 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,000 And they fall into, and they become, I mean, the Bible is just real straight. 613 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 They become reprobates. 614 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 And I know I'm going strong here, but it's family. 615 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Those listening, there are children today, 616 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,000 thousands and thousands of them being abused. 617 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000 One of the things Tim Ballard said in one of the interviews we watched 618 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,000 is that these kids, these freak pedophiles and these pimps, 619 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,000 they'll have these children have sex five and ten times a night. 620 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 They can make more money off of a child than they can a drug deal. 621 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Exactly. 622 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Because a drug deal is one time. 623 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000 So they're like, forget drugs. 624 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,000 We're going to human trafficked. 625 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,000 This is a better way. 626 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,000 So anyway, underground, what's it? 627 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Tim Ballard. 628 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Oh gosh. 629 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Operation Underground Railroad. 630 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,000 I had to go. 631 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Oh, you are. 632 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Look it up. Google it. 633 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 And go see the movie. 634 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Go see the movie. 635 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000 We went to support the movie. 636 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 And we want movies like this in the theater. 637 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,000 We want awareness. 638 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 But we also want people to make a difference. 639 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Do something. 640 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Don't just be aware. 641 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Ask God, what is it that I can do in this situation? 642 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 If it's buy merchandise, if it's send money to them, if it's praying. 643 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 I mean, whatever it is, do something. 644 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Don't just, let's just don't just sit here and think, well, it's not in our backyard. 645 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000 It's in our backyard. 646 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 And I would say this as an encouragement. 647 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 Don't go see the movie to be entertained. 648 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,000 It's not an entertainment. 649 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 But go to be informed. 650 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Go to learn. 651 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 Go to be made aware of what is happening. 652 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Don't just go and just see it as a movie movie where you're just trying to be entertained. 653 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000 That's not the point. 654 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,000 The point is awareness. 655 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,000 And we've got to make people aware of these atrocities that are happening. 656 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,000 And so, yeah, I'm fired up about it. 657 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,000 I'm angry about it. 658 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:54,000 But also I'm saying, Holy Spirit, lead me and guide me into what we're how to channel this energy 659 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 into something that makes a difference. 660 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,000 And he will. 661 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 I totally already see it coming. 662 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:05,000 I'm not going to say it out loud, but I already know there'll be some some action involved with this. 663 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,000 So go see the movie. 664 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:15,000 So thankful that our dearest friends on the planet, Adam and Tina Curry, went with us and we were all able to be. 665 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 And when we were walking out of the movie, it was real quiet. 666 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 Do you notice? 667 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 It was very quiet. 668 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,000 So here's what's really interesting. 669 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:32,000 Right next door to the movie we were in watching this incredible alarming sound, the car sound, the alarm right next to us, 670 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000 literally two feet away. 671 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:41,000 The door was to the Barbie movie, which a lot of people I've seen on Facebook who love this. 672 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 The heck that is going on in our world. 673 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 I know. 674 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,000 I know. 675 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,000 I don't know what to say. 676 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000 I don't even know what to say. 677 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,000 We don't watch TV much because we don't have we don't even have cable or anything anymore. 678 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,000 But there's some kind of draw, but I don't know what it is. 679 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Maybe someone can enlighten me what that is. 680 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000 But honestly, maybe it's just pure entertainment. 681 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000 So I'll walk out because, you know, I got teeny bladder syndrome. 682 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Right. 683 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000 I wanted to twice. 684 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 So I had to walk because the movie's three hours long. 685 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 You get your money's worth three hours long. 686 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 So I had to get a go out a couple of times. 687 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,000 I go out in the hallway. 688 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:27,000 There's these two girls standing outside the theater to go into the Barbie movie and they're taking selfies. 689 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,000 And they're doing video probably. 690 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Everybody's wearing pink and they're wearing pink and high heels. 691 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:43,000 And I'm like, I just walked out of seeing a child gets two children get stolen, thrown into a van, abused, taken to South America. 692 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:48,000 So I come out and I'm just like, my world's been rocked and I'm seeing these girls. 693 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:54,000 The juxtaposition of the Barbie movie and that's good entertainment for people. 694 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 But I mean, I just don't know because we don't know. 695 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 I'm going to calm down right now because that can fire. 696 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000 There are there are things to consider. 697 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:12,000 I mean, as as humans, we need to know what's going on and we need to get we need to find a cause that we can get. 698 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000 I wrap our mind around and do something about a difference. 699 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Which right now, one of our causes is what I love Adam Curry doing on with no agenda is deconstructing the media. 700 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Yes. Sorry, I said it, but it is what it is. 701 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:35,000 It is. There's so much misinformation, you know, propaganda is the word. 702 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:42,000 And because of Adam's background and understanding into various agencies of the government, 703 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,000 turns out his parents were employed and he didn't find out till he was 17. 704 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,000 He has seen from the inside, not just he's not the outside looking in. 705 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,000 He's not reading, you know, watching YouTube videos to get his information. 706 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:07,000 He's literally lived this and realized that the propaganda machine that's out there that is generating false information 707 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,000 for various purposes that are nefarious and dark and. 708 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 It's mind bending. It is really. 709 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,000 I love Adam fact, he and I have a bro date. I know to happen in tonight. 710 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Super excited. What are you going to do if you run into 10 people from the church? 711 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000 No, not on Monday night, not in town on Monday night. 712 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,000 So anyway, so we're going to go out to eat together. 713 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,000 He and I, we're just going to continue to unpack what God's up to in our lives. 714 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000 But but I just so appreciate what he's doing. 715 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:44,000 He and John Dvorak with no agenda where they are literally deconstructing what's going on in this world, 716 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:51,000 which is that issue with sex trafficking, sound of freedom, also the trends. 717 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Oh, my gosh. 718 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 Don't get me going. Go listen to no agenda. 719 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,000 I know this is not no agenda. We have an agenda. 720 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,000 I know. But hearing hearing our. 721 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,000 Leaders say it's OK to have. 722 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,000 These dancing. This is not the drag show I grew up in. 723 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,000 I grew up in America. It's an abomination to the Lord is what it is. 724 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,000 It's an abomination to the Lord. 725 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Why in the world would any body with any sense say this is OK? 726 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,000 I'm sorry. No, no, no. I'm having a I'm pulling up Romans chapter one right now. 727 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Oh, you're going there, aren't you? We need to go there. 728 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 I mean, we need to quit being so passive about things. 729 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Romans chapter one. So clear, so strong. 730 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 The whole chapter, the whole chapter. 731 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 But but I want to I want to go into one place in particular here. 732 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,000 And it's talking about God's wrath on unrighteousness. 733 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,000 This is for the wrath of God is refilled from heaven against all ungodliness 734 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,000 and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 735 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,000 For what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them 736 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000 for his invisible attributes, namely his eternal powers, divine nature, 737 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,000 have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world 738 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000 and the things that have been made so that they are without excuse. 739 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000 Wow. The world is without excuse. 740 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:30,000 God has shown himself in the clouds, in the mountain, in beauty, in aesthetics, in art. 741 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,000 I mean, I listen to what's what's interesting to me as a follower of Christ. 742 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 When I was young, I burned all my you know, I got trashed all my records. 743 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000 CD or no, it would have been eight tracks and albums back in the day. 744 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,000 I trashed all those thinking I was doing something for God. 745 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:51,000 But missing the fact that the Imago Dei, the creative nature of God's in all of man, 746 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 we are been created in the image of God. 747 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:02,000 And so whether it's a song by John Coltrane or a song by Journey or whatever, 748 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:10,000 there is the element and the grace of God in the midst of this genius, musical genius and an art genius. 749 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000 So listen to this. This is what was really scary. 750 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,000 It says for although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, 751 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,000 but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish hearts were darkened, 752 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,000 claiming to be wise. They became fools. 753 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Wow. That's what I see going on with the World Economic Forum and all these things. 754 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,000 Listen to that phrase, claiming to be wise. They became fools. 755 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:49,000 That's Romans 1 22 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. 756 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:56,000 In other words, we've exchanged the glory of God for stuff, right? For other things. 757 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Then look what it says in verse 24. Is he is Mr. Chevy falling? Yes. 758 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Again, he tends to fall through that chair. Listen to this in Romans 1 24. 759 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Therefore, God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves. 760 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:25,000 That reeks of the trans issue to me. They're giving up and dishonoring their bodies. 761 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Because in verse 25, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the creator. 762 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Wow. That's man worshiping man. Who is blessed forever. 763 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:53,000 And it says for this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions for their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature. 764 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Right. What? Exactly. Let's just say it for what it is. 765 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:05,000 This is the gay trans issue and they gave up their their passions that God gave them. 766 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:17,000 They gave them up for dishonorable passions and the men, verse 27, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another. 767 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. 768 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:37,000 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 769 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,000 You can't get any more clear than that goes on. I'm going to stop there, but it just goes on. 770 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:52,000 And this is, you know, when something comes up in your face and you're informed, you go, wait a minute, I've heard this before. 771 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:59,000 This is not new. It feels new because it's current and relevant happening right now under our nose. 772 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000 But this is something that was spoken about the first century. Exactly. 773 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,000 This is not new. Nothing's new under the sun. Everything comes. Solomon said that there's nothing new under the sun. 774 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:19,000 So anyway, you know, to watch our world go through this in our lifetime. 775 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:27,000 I mean, I'm glad my mom passed away a few years ago because I honestly I don't know how she would have handled it. 776 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Couldn't have it. I know it couldn't have. It's. 777 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,000 So disheartening, but God, there it is. 778 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:46,000 You know, every generation has its challenges, right? I mean, we all every generation has a new thing, a new hurdle to overcome. 779 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:55,000 But but new levels of debauchery and new new levels of darkness that arise, you know, one generation, it's getting you're growing your hair out long. 780 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 All of a sudden, that's the worst thing ever. The next generation, it's cutting yourself down. 781 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000 This generation, it's sex trafficking and human trafficking and child trafficking. 782 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000 It's it's like, where does this end? 783 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 And at some point, the world is spinning up. 784 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:17,000 We were listening and watching a video on YouTube with Jimmy Evans, Pastor Jimmy Evans, tipping point Trinity Church. 785 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Boy, was he talking about the end days, the end of time. 786 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And he's like, he's convinced that we're there. 787 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Close. Yeah, he says we're there. 788 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,000 We're there because of the debauchery, because of how dark it's always darkest before the dawn. 789 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Right. What I as hard as all this is to take and stomach and navigate and process, 790 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:49,000 there's also this idea and hope and belief that there's going to be an end time harvest of people coming to know Christ and turning to Jesus like we've never seen. 791 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,000 Well, it's it's like what we're seeing in Southern California right now. 792 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,000 I mean, think about all California off. Right. 793 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,000 What have I been saying? I know. Don't write California off. 794 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000 Now, politically, write them off. 795 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Spiritually, don't because God has had his hand on that state for decades since 1901 with the Azusa Street revivals and Pastor William Seymour. 796 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Most of the revivals came out of California and those revivals, by the way, started in Wales. 797 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:31,000 They were the Welsh revivals and they came over to the United States and they landed in of all places, a little black church. 798 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Call the on a zoos on the corner of Azusa Street and God showed up in miraculous ways. 799 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,000 My attitude right now is God do it again. Yes. God do it again. 800 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,000 And as believers, we need to be praying that we don't need to stick our head in the sand. 801 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:54,000 We need to be praying for revival and we don't need to get on social media and just peck out on a keyboard, you know, all of our anger. 802 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 You know, we've released some frustration today. 803 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000 But but it's just real. It's it's heartfelt. 804 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 And it's I'm not mad at anyone. I'm mad. There's a real enemy out there. 805 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000 They're wanting to destroy. I'm mad at the devil. 806 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:14,000 I'm mad at his cohorts and this host. Yes. Dark host of the demonic realm. 807 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,000 I'm mad at that. I'm mad at them. I'm not mad at people. 808 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 People are being used as pawns in this. 809 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:31,000 And so our heart is to see redemption for all and people to turn totally turn from all this wickedness and turn to God. 810 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000 That's the only peace they're ever going to receive. 811 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000 There you go. Did we just solve all the problems of the world? 812 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:43,000 I think so. So anyway, just so so grateful to Adam, Tina. 813 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:52,000 We were able to go together about the I remember walking out the doors of that theater in San Antonio and just there was a lot of silence. 814 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 It was hard to talk. It's hard to express your heart. 815 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 You know, there's time to be silent. You know, and that was that was that time. 816 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:07,000 And just love those guys and such a sweet time with them. 817 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000 You're looking at the time. 818 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:19,000 So one thing I wanted to talk about is we we were so blessed. 819 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:29,000 One of the things we're doing during our sabbatical, just so you know, we were instructed and we're following the playbook not to go to church anywhere, which is really hard. 820 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,000 It's strange for us. It's because churches are life. 821 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000 I mean, that's for 38 years. It's been my life longer than that. 822 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000 Yeah. Yeah. Longer than that. 823 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,000 So so we've been honoring that. 824 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:51,000 But we so we've been going online and listening to different messages and we're part of the Gateway Church's network or network of churches. 825 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000 They call it Gateway Network of Churches. 826 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000 We're part of that. And so we've been watching what's going on at Gateway. 827 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:05,000 So Charlotte Gamble, she's from England and she spoke at Gateway this last weekend. 828 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000 And we watched that message, which I've never heard her before. Oh, man. 829 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Wow. We were blown. We were blown away. 830 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000 We were blown away. I don't think I've ever heard. 831 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:25,000 She she preached on the passage of Zacchaeus in Great Leary, which I don't know if I've ever heard anyone preach on Zacchaeus the way she did. 832 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000 The way she did. No, I'm not really really good. Yeah. 833 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000 She extricated some things that were amazing. Amazing. 834 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,000 Yes. So I'll give you the short version. I'd love for you to share your your feelings on this. 835 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,000 Seek, stay, stand. Talk about that for a minute. 836 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,000 What did you get out of it? Well, I love the fact that Zacchaeus, he wanted to see Jesus. 837 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:59,000 And he because he heard he was there in the city he was part of and he had heard about all these miracles. 838 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:08,000 And so he was he had tried to he went to like let's just call it like a little revival. 839 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:16,000 If we were going to put it in our crowd, there's a crowd there, but he's a short person, much like me. 840 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:25,000 And so he decides that he is going to he knows that Jesus is going to leave that revival and the revival, 841 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,000 the crowd and be walking to the to go to the next area. 842 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:42,000 And he decides to climb a tree. OK, for one, I would not think about climbing a tree so I could see. 843 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000 See, I would would probably just give up and say, you know what? 844 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I can't see, which is what happens to me a lot of times when I go to a concert or something, I just can't see. 845 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:58,000 And I'll just sometimes I'll just sit down. I don't pay attention to the people around me. 846 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:07,000 And so what I'll do is I'll just sit there and I'll miss out on what maybe God wants me to hear or see. 847 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000 But Zacchaeus decided to climb a tree. 848 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:17,000 And it just so happens that Jesus was walking by that tree and it says he stopped at a spot. 849 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:25,000 And I love the fact that she said this a spot like like he had if you if you think about Jesus, 850 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:32,000 he he could have had security around if you if you look at today, let's put him in today's terms. 851 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,000 You would have security around him. And they're like, OK, there's a guy that wants to see you. 852 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,000 He's on tree number three. You know, the way she described him, it was hilarious. 853 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:50,000 But I believe this is what I love about Jesus is he knew that there was someone that needed what he had. 854 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:57,000 And so what he did, which which is what I love is is Zacchaeus. 855 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000 He called him by his name. 856 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:12,000 That was so powerful to me to read it the way she told the story, because it says that in the word of God, he knew his name. 857 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000 Why? Because if you think about that, Jesus knows our name. 858 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000 He knows all of our needs. He knows where we are. 859 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,000 He knows our struggles. He knows when we're celebrating. 860 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:32,000 But he he looked up where Zacchaeus was in the tree and he called him and. 861 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,000 He knew his name that that was the first thing that stood out to me. 862 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,000 So powerful, which I what I love about Zacchaeus is he was seeking the Lord. 863 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:48,000 Yes. In fact, the way Charlotte put it, I want to say these points because they're so powerful. 864 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Three points seek to see. Think about that. Seek to see. 865 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,000 And what are you seeking to see? What are you seeking to see? 866 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,000 I mean, what a question to ask myself. 867 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000 What am I seeking to see? Am I seeking to see him? 868 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,000 Or am I seeking to see something else that to fill a void or to fill an empty space in my life? 869 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,000 Am I seeking other things? But am I seeking to see him? 870 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000 And that's what Zacchaeus said. 871 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:26,000 He was seeking because he heard him do all these miraculous things and people, you know, in the city just enamored by what they're seeing. 872 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000 He's like, wait, I've got to go see what they're seeing. 873 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000 And that's exactly what he did. He climbed a tree. 874 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:40,000 I just think of how I mean, think about it when we seek to see something that we really will do whatever we will. 875 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000 We'll board a plane and fly to Nashville to go see Journey in Toto. 876 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,000 Right. Oh, no, let me give you a better example. 877 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000 We went to Utah. We were part of the set on The Chosen. 878 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,000 And we could see this where they were doing having a scene. 879 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,000 And so what did we do? The tour guide that was with us and we were the only ones who showed up. 880 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:09,000 They were supposed to have a busload of people show up for this tour guide and for the tour. 881 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,000 And something happened. Somebody had told. So it just happens to be you and I. 882 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,000 And he says, let's climb up. We climbed. I'll never forget it. 883 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,000 We climbed up on the roof. Yeah. Movie set. Yes. We're up on the roof in the catwalk. 884 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:29,000 Yes. And we're looking down and we're we have a bird's eye view. 885 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000 That was crazy. It was amazing. But yeah, I have to see. 886 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:40,000 I have not climbed a tree, but we did climb the catwalk. We went through some crazy things. 887 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000 I was thinking OSHA would not appreciate this. No, no. 888 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000 This is dangerous. Yeah. At one point, I think and they let us take pictures. 889 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000 And finally, they said, OK, you all need to you all need to move. 890 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Like the producer came up there and said, hey, you guys are kind of in the shot. 891 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,000 You're distracting. You're photobombing the movie. I know. It's kind of funny. 892 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000 It was fun. But you know what? We were seeking to see. We wanted to see. 893 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,000 I wanted to be a part of it. I totally forgot about that. 894 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000 So the second point is seek to see is the first great metaphor. 895 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:18,000 The second one is seek to stay. Yes. Seek to stay because Jesus, when he saw Zach, he is he stopped and he said, 896 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000 I'm staying at your place, which is I'm staying. 897 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000 I can't even imagine Jesus saying something like that. He didn't even know him, but he called him by name. 898 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,000 He already said yes. So he calls him by name and says, I'm staying at your place. 899 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,000 Yes. Whoa. I would be like, wait, what am I? 900 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,000 I got to fix dinner. I've got to I've got to clean up the house. 901 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000 I would have gone into Martha mode and I'm Mary. 902 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:48,000 You're Martha. That's for sure. But I love that because I think of also when Jesus. 903 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,000 When when we acknowledge him, he seeks to stay in our life. 904 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:58,000 He wants to stay with us at all times. 905 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000 He doesn't he's never going to leave. 906 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,000 He's never going to forsake us or we can recognize that he is staying with us at all times. 907 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,000 And what that should provoke in us and inspire in us is our desire to stay in him. 908 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Him stay where he's called us to be. 909 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Yes. And that's the sad part is that so many people will bail and leave or quit. 910 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,000 Yes. Before the blessing ever comes. 911 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,000 How many people do that? I mean, we we see people do that all the time or they'll be in a church 912 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:42,000 and they'll be like, yeah, I'm not getting anything out of this, which usually it's because they're not seeking to stay. 913 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,000 They're already looking elsewhere and then they'll just bail on the first, you know, the first thing that comes up. 914 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Oh, yeah, I knew I was supposed to go. So think about it this way. 915 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:58,000 There are some things that you will never see unless you choose to stay. Exactly. 916 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,000 There's a book out right now. I'm trying to remember the author to a new book called Raise to Stay. 917 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,000 And she she's has gone through and she's part of that millennial generation. 918 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,000 She was on staff at Life Church out in Colorado Springs. 919 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000 We love to have high value for that church. 920 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,000 Pastor Grady Boyd, wonderful, wonderful church. 921 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,000 She's one of the worship leaders out there. 922 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,000 And she said that as a millennial, she had many times, many opportunities to be offended through the years 923 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000 doing church life and being on staff at a church. 924 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,000 But she believed that God raised her to stay. 925 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,000 And so she wrote a book about it, about the power of staying. 926 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Wow. Power of not quitting. I see a power of not giving up. Sermon series there. 927 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,000 Raise to stay. Isn't that great? 928 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:49,000 But really think about it. There's something you'll never see unless you choose to stay. 929 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,000 Here's another way to say it. When you leave before God's timing, 930 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,000 you'll miss what God wanted you to see in that season and in that place. Right. 931 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:05,000 Oh, my gosh. How many stories do we have about that of people who came to us or didn't come to us? 932 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,000 They just quit and left the church or they came to this pastor, I just feel led to go somewhere else, 933 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000 not getting fed here. I'm going to end. I'm like, wow. 934 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:19,000 Most of the time they're telling that to someone else, not us. That's true. That's true. Very few times. 935 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:27,000 And it's like, well, what if God was causing calling you to not just be fed, but you to feed? Exactly. 936 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,000 Give me a break. It's like, come on, you've got something to contribute. Exactly. 937 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:39,000 But so many people because we're in a consumeristic, we are consumers. We're consumers. This is America. 938 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:45,000 I just buy what I want when I want. We we got FedEx showing up during the show. 939 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:51,000 We'll probably have UPS. We'll probably mail mailman will be coming anytime. 940 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000 I mean, my phone, my thing just went off. Anyway, all this stuff's going on. 941 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:03,000 And it's because we're consumeristic. But we take that into our faith life and we go to a church. 942 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:08,000 God never meant that to have churches. Oh, my gosh. 943 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,000 Maybe maybe God has called you to stay. 944 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:18,000 Maybe God has raised you to stay. Jesus came to stay with Zacchaeus. 945 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:23,000 But Zacchaeus also had to take a step and say, I'm going to stay with you. 946 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:30,000 I'm not going to let go. What's the third? The third one is seek to stand and seek to stand. 947 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:36,000 In Luke 19 eight, we read that Zacchaeus stood up. 948 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,000 So listen to this. Verse seven, all the people saw this and we get to munder. 949 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,000 And he has gone to be with a guest of a sinner because Jesus said, I'm going to come stay with you. 950 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:51,000 So they left together. Right. So here's the Pharisees are so upset that he's going to a sinner's house. 951 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Oh, my goodness. First of all, Zacchaeus would have been considered. 952 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,000 Yeah, he's the sinner. Yeah, he says because he's the Jew who turned his back on them. 953 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,000 He was a fraud. Yeah, because Rome hired him to collect taxes for Caesar. 954 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:15,000 And so it says this. But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, look, Lord, here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor. 955 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,000 I mean, God rocked through Jesus because he was wealthy. 956 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,000 He was a very he didn't have need for God because he was so wealthy. 957 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Look what he says. And if I've cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount. 958 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,000 What compound interest, baby. 959 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:42,000 Jesus said this to him. Today, salvation has come to this house because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 960 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,000 For the son of man came to seek and save that which was lost. 961 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:56,000 So three things simple. Seek to see, seek to stay and seek to stand. 962 00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Because here's the deal. If you see you come to see and you see Jesus, if you come to stay and you stay with him and stay in his will, then you will stay. 963 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:16,000 You will stand. You'll have the power, the motivation, the inspiration, the empowerment of the Holy Spirit to stand where you live, where you work. 964 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:22,000 And where you play rock and roll, baby. I just love it. That was a great message. 965 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:29,000 It was so good. Such a great word of God. And Pastor Eddie, get back to our very first conversation. Super excited. 966 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:36,000 He came to our church and preached on honor. Tina said it was amazing. 967 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:41,000 She got some insight, but we're going to wait. She was sharing with me some of her insight. Cool. 968 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,000 Anything you want to share? No, I mean, nothing that I need to share online. But it was really good. 969 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:53,000 It was really, really good. And I can't wait to go back and listen. It's very hard not to. 970 00:55:53,000 --> 00:56:00,000 I know you asked me, can I go? Can we watch Pastor Eddie? And you're like, no, we're following his playbook. 971 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,000 No, it was his playbook. I know. So we're following it. 972 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,000 Well, listen, we want to say thank you for listening today. Thank you for being with us. 973 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:14,000 Get fired up with us just like everybody else is. No, not like everybody else, but like believers should be. 974 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,000 We need to take a stand. We need to take a stand for truth. Take a stand for righteousness. 975 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Yes. And not be bullied and pushed around by the powers that be. And so we want to encourage you. 976 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,000 Greater is he that is in us than he that's in the world. Come on, girl. 977 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:35,000 But we've got to use the power that Christ gives us. And never forget who the real enemy is. 978 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:42,000 It's not a person. It's not a human being. No, they sometimes look like human beings, but they're not our enemy. 979 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,000 The enemy is our enemy. Right. The devil himself. But we have been given victory over him. 980 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:54,000 We overcame by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. We love you guys. Have an amazing week. 981 00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,000 Thanks for being with us. Yes. And thank you to everybody who's writing in, who's giving. 982 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:07,000 We so appreciate everything you're doing. Keep it coming. We love you. Goodbye. 983 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,000 You