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Jesus.
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special guest. Really appreciate you being here today. Hey, it's
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fun. Let's keep doing this. Yeah. So, Annette is home with
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uh painters right now as we're having some deconstruction
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slash slash construction done in our house. Fun. We it's yeah
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we we had a cabinet company come in and they completely
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flubbed it up to the point where they're literally rebuilding
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the cabinets. The Christmas gift you didn't want, right? Man,
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this thing is dragging out and anyone who's done home,
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rentals, and remodels knows, you know, the perils. We feel
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like we're gonna be on HDTV is one of those shows of, you
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know, construction disasters and uh so yeah, our our our
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kitchen's just totally whacked right now. We did have them
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reinstall the bad cabinets and the doors just just so we'll
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have some cabinets through the holidays cuz they're gonna be
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down for 2 weeks. We don't really want them here over the
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holidays. We we need some downtime. Yeah, you need to take a break.
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So, yeah, it's been an adventure. That's for sure. So,
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anyway, we're we're getting past it and uh or we're in the
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middle of it. Now, we've gotta they'll come back hopefully by
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the end of January. This will be done. Mm. Hopefully. It's all
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gonna be worth it. Just keep telling yourself that. I'm not
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holding my breath. I'll just say that. So, hey, welcome to
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It's Thursday. It is Thursday. It's Thursday. Almost
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Christmas. My gosh. It is literally here and uh I'm loving
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it. I've I've been in the Christmas spirit this year. I
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feel like I'm celebrating this year. It's it's been a good one.
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It has been a great year. We've had a great year at the
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bridge. I mean, God is moving as we celebrate. Aslan is on the
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move. We're seeing so many good things happen and and we've
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just had some good things happen recently. We talked a
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little bit about that. You know, our our Christmas event at
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Market Plots which one of our church members did and we jumped
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in on it which is exactly how these things are supposed to go
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but just even salvations and baptisms and people jumping in
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that hadn't been in church for years or ever and I mean just
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we're just seeing everything across the board. It's mind
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bending. I I went to lunch with a church member yesterday,
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Robbie and as we're sitting there, I mean no less than six
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people from our church were in that restaurant and came over
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to the table. We were having church right there at the table
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were high five and hugging. Yeah. Loving each other. It was
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like it was so cool. I just I love being in a smaller
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community. Yeah, I wasn't got my car washed the other day and
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uh the the girl checking me out was like, hey Pastor Brian and
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I was like, hi. Get used to it brother. I I know you you guys
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have been here for a year now. We're celebrating a year with
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you guys but also just know that the longer you're here,
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the more that will happen. You'll go to H.E.B. and you
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will be on aisle four for a while because you'll end up
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stopping and talking to people and so you're gonna have to
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forget the days of going in and getting milk and and cereal
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quickly. Such thing as being anonymous anymore. Not anymore.
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That's the beauty of being in a small community. I always love
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shows like uh you know, Gilmore Girls at Stars Hollow, uh
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Mayberry RFD, you know, Barney Fife, all that, you know, these
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small communities. There's something joyful and life giving
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about being in a small community. Yeah, it's good and
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every once in a while, if I need to feel anonymous, I'll
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just drive into San Antonio. That's the beauty. We live, we
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we're very short drive to Austin or San Antonio. I mean,
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it's easy to get away if we need to and uh and it's good to
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feel, you know, like you're part of something bigger, you
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know, and go to Lock and Terror or whatever and hang out at
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the mall there and great restaurants and all that. So,
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yeah, that's easy for us. So, we kinda got the best of both
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worlds here. I'm liking it. And we're in a small town that's
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very um on the move. I mean, this is a small town with a lot
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happening. It's a destination. It is. Fredericksburg is a
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huge destination area. Not just in Texas but we get people
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from literally all over the world and we are a German
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community and we're known for that. Yeah. So, we get people
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from Germany here that come to visit our town because we're
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like a sister sister community. It's really cool. Uh every
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time I go downtown, I hear languages and accents I don't
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even recognize. I'm shocked. Yeah, whenever I've been in
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other places or I'm talking to people from other places, you
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know, um how many people know about Fredericksburg have heard
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of it or have already been there? So, so if you're
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listening, you should come visit cuz it is a great place
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to be. Yeah. Great place to hang out. I mean, it's crazy.
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The people who are moving here right now from all over. We get
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a lot of people from Texas like Houston. Yep. Uh Midland
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Odessa. You know, people retiring from the oil field
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industry or you know, Dallas, Fort Worth, California,
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California, Denver. I mean, I feel like we're getting the
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good Californians though. No doubt. No doubt. I mean, we get
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people that in fact, it's it's interesting when you talk to
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people who come from other places, particularly
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California. They're they're almost afraid to tell you that
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they're from California. There is a there is a lot more
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traditional values oriented conservative people in
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California than they get credit for. Absolutely. Especially
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when you get up north. Uh when you get up, you know, north of
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Redding and on on up into the mountains and and up in that
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area. There's a lot of rural areas out there and they're
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they're not playing the game. There's a there's a county in
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Southern California called Irving. Um right near, it's
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actually near Anaheim where Disney World is and all that.
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Right. It is one of the most conservative counties in the
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entire country. It's Irving or Irvine. Uh I think it depends
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on how you say it. I'm gonna make you. Irvine. I'm about to
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make you. Probably is correct. Second guess yourself. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. It's it's fascinating. In Colorado is the
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same way. I mean, like where Colorado Springs is proper,
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that's a very conservative county there. Even though
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you're you got Manitou Springs, you've got just north, you've
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got Denver, and yet you've got this pocket of
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conservatism and so I think those pockets are growing now.
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I think they might be. With with what happened in this
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last election and where things seem to be going and heading.
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And uh speaking of that, wow. How about those drones? Oh man.
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Drones are, that's exciting. You know, is that not the funniest
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thing? I had to text Adam Curry about that and be like, yeah,
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like you gotta set me straight on this cuz I'm seeing a
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million conflicting reports here. What is going on? And uh
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he was like, just listen to the first 20 minutes of my podcast
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and it'll put your mind at ease. That's true. That's true. I uh
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I was gonna look up cuz I actually wrote down some stuff
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on that because to me, it's fascinating. Uh man, where'd it
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go? Had it all written down? Oh, I know what it's for. Where
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did I put this? I put a whole thing on drones. What? Okay,
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this is weird. I think a drone has stolen my my notes here.
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This is so weird. Blame it on the drones. No kidding. Where
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did it go? Anyway, so it's interesting in terms of the
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drones and what's happening there. Um one of the things I
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did learn from Adam Curry uh back when we met and we
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started building a friendship was that uh because of his
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background in media deconstruction, podcasting,
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but also some things with his family. Yeah. Being involved in
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government. I'll just keep it there. He can tell it if he
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wants to. Um he he said to me, he said, whatever the modern,
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whatever the mainstream media is chasing. Yep. Look somewhere
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else. Right. He said, it's a diversion. And he said, always
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always look at sleight of hand. It's always smoke and
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mirrors. Hey, look over here. Look, if they're saying, look
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over here, you need to be looking somewhere else. Yeah.
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And he's really awakened me to that and that's been really
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powerful for me. Well, and it just so happens that there's a
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there's a house bill that's due to be passed. Isn't it today
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or was it yesterday? The twentieth. So that. It's
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tomorrow. It's tomorrow. Oh, it's tomorrow. Yeah. Okay. Oh,
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I found my notes. So, go ahead. Okay. Well, I don't I don't
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know all the details of it but the bottom line is they're
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trying to essentially re-up the Patriot Act or something like
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that. FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 and they're gonna they
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wanna re author re up it so to speak and it gives the federal
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government the ability to for them. They're saying this is
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all about controlling these drones. Correct. That's how
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they're selling it. Right. But there's also a lot of other
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things. It's called HR 8610 counter UAS authority safety
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security act man. Say that fast three times in a row. Yep.
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Well, and I believe that that act will essentially give the
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government expanded powers to you know, ostensibly to
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intercept enemy drones but the way that that extends to you
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know, basically being able to infringe on the rights of the
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American people is a big part of that package as well which
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same thing as it was with the Patriot Act. It was all in the
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in the in the package of national defense and national
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security but what it ultimately did is it let people let the
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government intrude into our personal lives into our phones
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and do our data and to all those things. Exactly. I'm
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gonna read a quote right out of this bill. It is this that
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another person said this way. It gives various government
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agencies the authority and then in quotes in right out of the
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bill which you can look up on USA.gov and which I did. I
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checked it out to destroy or disable aircraft in flight and
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intercept signals and communications and you know,
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you gotta think about this is on American. It's a pretty broad
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stroke there. That is a very broad stroke cuz these signals
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and communications could be your cell phone. Yeah. Your your
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texts, your emails all under the guise of protecting you.
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Yeah and what it what it essentially does is it
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eliminates any form of privacy, you know, and so you you don't
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have any right to privacy anymore. Yeah. I mean which is
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about as unamerican as it can get. This is so
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unconstitutional and so that vote is up for tomorrow. There
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was another vote last week. I believe on Sunday that or or
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last week cuz Adam was talking about it on Sunday which was
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another piece of this. It was another it's called something
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else. He he wrote me and told me about it but it sounded very
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similar. I mean these are what's happening is is they're
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they're trying to under the guise of protection. Drones,
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there's drones everywhere. There's drones from China here.
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There's drones, you know. Yeah. All that. We need we want to
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protect you. So, we're gonna gonna pass this bill that's
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gonna give us now the right to intercept those drones and
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people will cheer because they're okay protect us from
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the drones. Right. What? Give me a twelve gauge shotgun. I'll
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protect you from the drones. Well, and there's there's
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another end of this that I I heard Adam talking about the
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other day, you know, that has to do with money as always, you
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know. Really? In terms of the who's making the drones and
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the companies that is getting the contracts to to build
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drones and pushing out other companies that make drones and
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so that, you know, any drone that even a private citizen
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has is, you know, if this all goes like they want it to,
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we'll have to be made by a very select group of people with
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whatever kind of software on the inside of it and so I mean
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there there's multiple angles here for sure. For sure. I've
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watched some of the video of these drones and I'm like,
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what's the big deal? I mean literally up in what Adam said,
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he said a lot of these are private, you know, just
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hobbyists that are getting in on the action. They wanna get
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their phone, their drone on TV. You know, they wanna get
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somebody to video their drone and it's kind of funny go
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viral. He said this. He said a combined Senate and House
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version of this bill has already passed as part of the
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NDAA on Saturday. That was this this past Saturday. He said
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that's what all this noise is about. He says he he said he
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expects everything to die down in the next three or four days
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after all the hobbyists stop flying their drones to get on
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television. He says the politicians are well aware of
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this and the drone lobby may not be extremely powerful but
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they're very noisy because it includes local law
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enforcement, Hollywood, etcetera who are using cheap
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Chinese drones. They now will have to go. So so this is a
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ploy to get in and really just take control. I mean, it's
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another angle. It's always about that. You think about
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what's happening right now. We're in control. Oh my
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goodness. I mean now with with what's happened even recently,
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I won't get into the to the weeds on it but the speaker of
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the house, Mike Johnson is now kinda his backs against the
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wall cuz he tried to rush push through a bill that had a lot
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of money and fall out going over to to democratic agencies,
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a lot of fat, lot of fat and I'm still not sure what's
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going on with that. I'm Mike. I'm I'm the jury's out a
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little bit. I mean, I like the guy. Yeah, I feel like he's
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trying to do the right things but I feel like he gets put in
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these positions where he's trying to he's trying to be
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such a diplomat that he has seems to have a hard time
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taking much of a stand on anything clearly. Yeah, that's
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that's what makes me nervous about him. I don't I wouldn't
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call him a rhino yet cuz I know that that name gets thrown
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around a lot Republican in name only but he is he is
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legitimately in a in a tough situation where to get anything
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done. He's gotta play both sides to a degree. Yeah, I
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thought that there's also gotta be limits to that. There's
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that give and take but at what point do you draw a line in the
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sand and say we're done. You know, yeah, we're not playing
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that game. Fortunately, that bill got struck down
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yesterday. Oh, really? That that got shut down yesterday.
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Yeah, I was reading late last night and I was kinda watching
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and keeping up with it and and they that has been nixed and
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they're gonna re regroup. I'm sure you know, so there'll be
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more coming but but I think what's happening and I do know
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Johnson on some things is trying to put things off until
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Trump gets in office. I'm not sure why he tried to push this
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through. I'm sure there was give and take that we'll never
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know about. It's politics. Yeah, that's that's the give and
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take of politics. Man, I think I'll stick in stick with the
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church world. Hey, speaking of the church world, I wanna share
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something. I I do a daily devotional called the daily
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grind and I just call it that. That sounds terrible. It's like
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it's a grind to me. It's really not. It's it's coffee. That's
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the whole point. It's caffeine. It's my daily grind and so
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every morning and I've done this gosh for now 23, 24 years,
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maybe 25. If I just do the math, it's probably longer than
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I think cuz I'm older than I think and so I just what I do is
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I get up early in the morning, get up about six every morning
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and I just go sit down at my computer after getting my coffee,
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my first cup, always black rifle and I sit down and I'm
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just I just sit before the Lord. Nothing fancy. Sometimes
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I'll just I'll randomly pick up my Bible and thumb thumb
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through it and I'll see something or or wherever it
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stops, I'll kinda read. So, it's not it's not real formal.
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It's quite relaxed and and then I'll land on a verse of
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scripture and I'll just trust that the Lord led me to that
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scripture however I found it. Right. So, today, I did one on
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Luke 4, 31 and 32. I'm gonna read it out of the ESV. That's
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the English Standard Version and it's talking about Jesus.
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It says, and he, Jesus went down to Capernaum which that's
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on the Lake of Galilee. That's right there on on the on the
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shore of the Lake of Galilee. It's a fishing village, a city
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of Galilee and he was teaching them on the Sabbath and they
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were astonished at his teaching for his word possessed
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authority and that just jumped off the page this morning
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cuz I was thinking about that word authority and what does
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that mean and the reason the reason that word has become
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maybe a little more in my filter is because of what's
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been going on with our federal government. What's been going
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on in the world? Yeah. You know, cuz we talk about what
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is authority mean when when authority is conferred from a
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higher authority. For example, the federal government may give
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the DOJ a certain what they call a jurisdiction. Right. And
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the jurisdiction is that those boundaries in which they have
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the authority to enact certain things and do certain things
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and you know, there's been a lot of talk over the last bit in
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terms of they've have been a lot of what they call overreach
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government overreach. That means they're stepping on the
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authority. Yeah, outside of their purview and so but I
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think about this in terms of spiritual things and I wrote
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this. I'll just read this and we can we can talk about it. It's
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called the authority of the kingdom as Jesus begins to teach
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the message of the kingdom of God. The people quickly
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realized this is no ordinary rabbi. They were used to the
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weak scholarly and impotent teachings of the rabbis but
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Jesus words were laced with authority and power. Something
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was different. Jesus jurisdiction came from God and
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was released in and through Jesus to reveal the will and
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plan of God. When we read God's word today, his authority is
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still present to bring the kingdom of heaven into this
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present moment. Wow. So what does that say to you because it
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pings all kinds of things in me even though I wrote that I
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trust the Holy Spirit helped me write it but I it even I'm
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already leaping off into other directions with that but well
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the first thing that comes to my mind is that you know there's
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a difference between somebody who tries to exert authority
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versus somebody who actually carries it. The type of
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authority being referred to here in the scripture is it's
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what is it's potency from heaven. It's a it's a it's
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power. It's potency. It's it's effectiveness. You know
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authority isn't speaking louder or more dominantly. It's it's
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when you got God backing you up in what you're doing and in
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what you're saying and you know what I was taught a long time
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ago is that if if you wanna carry authority in God's
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kingdom, you have to be under authority. Yes, absolutely. You
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know that the more that I submit myself to his authority,
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the more of his authority will be conferred and delegated
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down and through me because I've positioned myself under
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him that that submission of coming under his mission. Yes
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allows him to transfer elements of his authority for specific
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situations and moments and trust me with it. It's great
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word and and right along with that and and actually I'm just
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leaping right off of what you said. There there's a there's
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an element that's so important that I think really opens this
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channel and it's humility. Yeah, when you're when you walk
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in great humility, you you can give honor away. You're
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honorable, but you also give honor away easily when you're
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humble and when you do that, it opens up a channel where God
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knows he can trust you. If he can trust you with a little
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bit and you handle it with humility and you handle it
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honorably, then he will trust you with more. Yeah and so
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this this boundary, this jurisdiction can grow. That's
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what's exciting to me is it's really unlimited. You know when
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we're young and we're learning and we're you know our
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jurisdiction is pretty small. I mean, there's not a lot of not
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a lot of people that we influence, you know, 18, 19, 20
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years and I'm not talking about getting online and being an
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influencer. I'm talking about in real life, people who really
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your words carry a lot of weight and value. So, you know
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when you're younger, not a lot, right? Yeah, there's your dog,
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you know at the house, maybe a couple of guys you game with
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online or whatever, but but as you get older God and you grow
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your jurisdiction grows as you mature. God be gifts to give
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you a greater jurisdiction. Now, there's a difference between
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kingdom authority and worldly authority. That's right.
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Worldly authority can be had through positional authority.
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That means you get a title, you get a job, and now you've got
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a jurisdiction. You're over a certain amount of people in a
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company. That's different, right? You have leverage
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through money and you know job descriptions and all that, your
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KOA, all that stuff. Yeah, that's different or your KRA,
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key results area. That all happens in that in the worldly
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sense, but I'm not as interested in that as I am in the
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spiritual sense. Yeah, me too. I mean what does it mean when
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Jesus said you're going to do greater works than these? Well,
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you know what I love about what that that passage you read in
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Luke 4 is that Jesus didn't declare that he was coming with
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authority. It was the people that were being ministered to
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that said it to him. They recognized the authority on him
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and so much so that they had to say it out loud.
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And that's the way it goes with kingdom authority.
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If you feel the need to declare your authority, you missed it
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and that's not godly authority that you're walking in.
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When you're actually carrying heat from heaven,
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people will come and tell you because they'll see it on you.
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They'll experience it in the weight that your words carry,
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you know, even apart from your your notice sometimes.
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Wow, that is a great insight PB. You never have to announce
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your own authority and if you have to announce it, then you
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probably don't really have it. Right. And I've been in those
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environments where people very much very loudly announced
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their authority. They delighted in that and I think sometimes
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they were trying to convince themselves more than anybody
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else. Yeah, and it's one of the probably the distasteful things
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that people wrongly attribute to the church as a broad stroke.
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People maybe who aren't Christians yet or who have had a
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bad experience in church. The mistake is to think that it's
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descriptive of all of church leadership that you know that
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they just come and exert their authority, you know, without
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any reins on it. But man, a true godly leader will speak
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humbly, but his words will carry weight and power
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because he's got the force of heaven behind them. That is so
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true. I just people are flashing in front of my mind that carry
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that but would never tell you they carry that. For example,
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the bishop that I've gotten to know, Bishop Bill, he's an
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Anglican bishop. He's semi-retired from being a bishop
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in a particular jurisdiction, which was in Africa. He's now
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doing other things and we're going to have him hopefully in
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February get him here to come tell some of his amazing global
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stories about what God's doing across the world. But I got to
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know him and he was so unpretentious. He's 74, was 75
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now, but he was 74 when I met him and he was sitting on the
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back row of this large room I was in at a theological
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roundtable retreat and they just went around the room.
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Everybody said, hey, I'm so and so from so on. This is what I
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do. And when he said who he was, you know, I didn't think
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anything about it. You know, I'm an Anglican bishop. I'm like,
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Anglican, what are you doing here? You know, it was kind of
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kind of seemed a little out of place and he was very
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unpretentious in his attire and the way he carried himself. But
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then he ended up in my table group and within minutes of
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sitting with him, I mean minutes, he never had to
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announce his authority. I knew it. I knew I was sitting with a
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general in the kingdom of God. And I use that designation in an
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honorable way to say he has a massive jurisdiction. And sure
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enough, as I got to know him and unpack and hear some of his
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stories, I realized this man really is a general in the
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kingdom of God. He's a mover shaker, a disruptor. I mean,
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he's all the things you want in a leader. And he's 74, has a hip
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issue. I mean, has a hard time getting around and yet this man
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is carrying huge authority. The word authority in the Greek is
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the word exousia and it means conferred authority. You've been
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given or designated and he carries that. And those are the
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kind of people I want to hang around. I hooked my arm through
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his. I said, I'm going to be your friend. I mean, literally,
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and I wouldn't leave his side. I hung out with him the whole
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week, the whole three days that we were there, two and a half
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days we were there. And we've stayed friends. So it's
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beautiful. I can't wait to meet him. Oh man, you'll see what I
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mean when you get around him. Well, you know, I think we live
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in a time in our culture where we desperately need the church.
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We need Christians to walk in true, godly authority. You know,
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I was reading a scripture out of Proverbs 16 the other day
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that I think kind of correlates to this. It's a last or second
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to last verse of Proverbs 16 is verse 32. And it says,
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whoever is slow to anger is better than the mighty. And
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he listened to this and he who rules his spirit is greater than
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he who takes a whole city. And that phrase about ruling my
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spirit really jumped off the page when I read that verse. And
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I mean, it was like the Lord was saying to me, there is a way
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that God's people rule and control the spirit that they
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walk into environments in that makes all the difference in,
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you know, really the effect that they have on an entire
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city, according to this scripture. Wow. You know, that
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it's this idea that we're walking in the fruit of the
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spirit of self-control in such a way that God is able to freely
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work through our words and our actions in a way where we're
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not getting in his way. We're ruling our spirit. So we're not
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reacting to the negative things in culture and anger. We're not
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reacting to them and fear. We're not reacting by just trying
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to be louder or, you know, demand that things change
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because everything's wrong. But there's this sense of that we
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can come in ruling our spirits in such a way under the
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authority of God where that that peace that we bring into
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situations is what causes the change, not us coming in and
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fighting the same way that that maybe we're being fought
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against. And there's another verse in that same chapter,
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chapter 16 verse 7. It says, when a man's ways please the
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Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him. I
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love that. You know, and I think that's one of the ways that we
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cause our ways to please the Lord is that, you know, man,
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we're not reacting in anger. We're ruling our spirits. We're
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submitted to God and we understand that we come with his
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conferred authority. We carry it wherever we go and we have
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this promise that God is able and willing to make even our
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enemies be at peace with us when we show up under his
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authority. Wow. Man, I want to back up on that verse 32 as
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well, but it bodes in both verses. What does it mean? So,
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listen, you kind of touched on it. I want to go a little
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deeper this because if I was listening to us riff on this
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stuff right now, I'd be saying, okay, I get that, but how do I
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rule my spirit? So, in he who rules his spirit, whoever's
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slow to anger is better than the mighty and he who rules his
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spirit, then he who takes a city. So, what does that look
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like? You touched on it with the fruit of the spirit, number
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nine. Let's stay on that for a minute. Yeah. So, I mean, what
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immediately comes to mind is the idea of self-control, but
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not a gritting my teeth sort of I'm gonna control myself, but
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a recognition that as I am led by the Holy Spirit, as I am
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submitted to God, that one of the gifts he gives me is the
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ability to be in control of my thoughts, my emotions, my
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reactions, and to to do and say what I'm I'm doing with
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wisdom, you know, the the wisdom that Proverbs talks
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over and over and out about throughout the whole book, you
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know, it's that, you know, whoever finds wisdom finds a
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good thing, you know, but wisdom doesn't come when we're
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all stirred up, spun up, spun out, freaking out, you know,
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just reacting to everything. Yeah. There's this when I think
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of somebody who is ruling their spirit, it's they're they're
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not reacting. They're responding. Yes. With God's
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authority. Yes. There's there's almost a holy pause before you
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react and that becomes a response instead of a reaction.
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Second Timothy one seven familiar verse for God gave us
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a spirit not of fear, but of power and love and self
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control. Yeah. So, you see it as a fruit of the spirit. Now,
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you have it again said basically a spirit of self
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control. It's a fruit of the spirit and it's a spirit which
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is so powerful to me that it's not something I've gotta work
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up but it is something I have to lean into. Yes. I have to
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receive. I have to accept that. I have to believe that. Yeah.
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To say, okay, I feel like I'm out of control but my word, the
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Bible tells me at least two verses right here. One, it's a
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fruit of the spirit, not a fruit of the flesh, fruit of the
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spirit. Yeah. And it's a spirit of self control. I've been
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given that and if I've been given that, then by faith, I
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can receive it and now by faith, I can employ it. Well,
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think about the sermon on the mount, you know, when Jesus is
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telling these multitudes gathered listening to him
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teach, he's telling him things like, you know, hey, you know,
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when your enemy comes against you and forces you to go one
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mile with them, just go to, you know, if they wanna take your
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garment, give them your coat too, you know, it's it's what
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is what is that descriptive of? It's somebody who's ruling
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their spirit. It's it's not somebody who's not allowing the
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situation, the person, or the circumstance to take their
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peace or their ability to to stand in the authority that God's
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trying to give them and usually the way that manifests itself
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is us coming in the opposite spirit. There it is. Of what's
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going on. Yeah. In a way that is counterintuitive to the
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reaction that anybody who's not walking with God would expect.
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I used to joke about, that's so on point, I used to joke about
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the fact that we live in that that God's kingdom is an upside
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down kingdom, then one day I felt the Lord corrected me on
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that and he said, no, no, no, my kingdom is right side up, your
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kingdom is upside down. There you go. And I was like, you're
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right, Lord, we we do, we live in an upside down kingdom, but
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the kingdom God is right side up, which is an opposite effect.
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I'll never forget the first time I heard someone talk about
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coming in the opposite spirit and it was Robert Owens,
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Pastor Roberts. Yes. Out of Nevada who said that to our
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group back in Abilene, yeah, 20 plus years ago. I forgot that
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that was the origination of that. That's where it came from
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and that's just like it stuck with you, it stuck with me all
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these years because that was a word of wisdom. Yeah. And that
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is so true. So and you see it all through scriptures. You
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know, somebody says carry your gear one mile, you carry it two.
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Somebody hits you on the cheek, you give them the other, it's
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all backwards. It's all upside down and it is what you said,
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it's counterintuitive. It's Saul throwing a spirit, David, to
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try to kill him and then David praying for Saul and coming and
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still loving him. Yeah, giving him honor. Giving him honor. When
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he was not being honorable, honor able. Yeah. You know, able
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to be honored. So that is so powerful and so yeah, so if we're
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going to talk about ruling our spirit, then maybe it comes back
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to taking a holy pause when something happens and saying,
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how do I counter that? How do I come in an opposite spirit? So
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I guess on a how to, if we're just going to know about what
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should we do? Because if I was listening, I'd say, tell me what
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to do. Yeah. So to me, the doing is taking a step back. Agreed.
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Instead of just because I mean, it is easy to react. You know, I
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played sports all my life and you train yourself to react to
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situations. You train yourself to get back, fight back, make the
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tackle, whatever you react to the play. I mean, boom, boom,
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boom, everything's in real time. But then you get in real life
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and it's not like that. And if you operate that way, you're
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going to blow stuff up. Well, your flesh always tries to speak
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first, right? So if you go with your first reaction to things,
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you're almost always probably not going to be doing that in the
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delegated and conferred authority. It comes from
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there it is. Here's another thing about about authority,
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just we're riffing all around it, but it just hit me. It never
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has to get loud. You know, I've been around in Christian circles
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for a lot of years now and in wide and varied situations and I
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always realized it dawned on me one time. I was in a situation
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where this guy was trying to take authority over over a dark
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thing, like a dark spiritual thing. Yeah. And I noticed he
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was getting louder and louder and more intense and more
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intense. And it dawned on me while I was watching this. He's
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so insecure in his authority. He doesn't know that he really
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believes it. It's like he's trying to talk to himself into
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it. Exactly. Or convince what's going on that he has
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authority. And I took a lesson, I took a step back from that,
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and I remember praying and saying, Lord, if I believe that
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you've given me true spiritual authority and that I am able to
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rule, you know, my own spirit and that I have received not a
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spirit of fear, but of self-control, the holy, if I
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believe that and I'm truly a believing believer, I'll never
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have to yell again. Yeah. I won't have to announce my
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authority when I walk in a room. I want to wear a badge or a
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tag saying senior pastor or whatever, you know, or you know
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what I'm saying? I do. Because to me, I want to take it right
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back to where I started. This humility is the most
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underwhelming, under talked about, under, there's a word I'm
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looking for, but I can't remember what it is, but it's
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not ever hardly talked about. Because we see humility as weak
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when indeed humility is so confident that it's unshakable.
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It's a God confidence rather than a self-confidence.
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There it is. Which means that true biblical humility can at
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times be misperceived as arrogance, you know, because
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there's a way to be so confident in the Lord that people
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don't quite get it at first, like where that's coming from.
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You know, and so you got to be careful with that, but you know,
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you can take humility in a weird direction when it becomes
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a false humility of self-deprecation and things like
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that. That's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about that at all. This is
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about beating yourself down and calling that being humble.
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It's recognizing the source. That's it. You know, and staying
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submitted. You know, you never got to sit much under
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Bill Loveless, you know, because you came after, but
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a lot of what we're talking about is really what Bill talked about, that one
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of his things, God is our source. We don't have
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self-confidence. We operate in Christ's confidence. Those are Billisms.
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He lives his life through us. Exactly. Innocent through us, and
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we're just available. We're there surrendered. We're
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available, and that may be another way to look at this.
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For me, in terms of walking in authority, it's a fact. I prayed this coming in. I
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was by myself today, so I had about 16 minutes on the highway, and I always
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try to pray on my way in like that, and I was saying, Lord,
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I rest in you today. I rest in who you are today.
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I'm resting in God today. I rest into your peace.
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I rest into your wisdom. I just, there was just things I enumerated as I was
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and I was using that language, and to me,
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when you're secure, when you understand who your source is, when your confidence
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is not in you, it's in Christ, you can rest, and now the
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labor you do, you labor out of a place of rest.
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The work you do. That's where this thing gets fun.
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I had somebody stop me, Kit Patterson, dear friend,
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dear, dear brother, stop me a couple weeks ago.
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Kit runs, him and his family run Lucanbach. They're the family of Lucanbach,
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Hondo Crouch's grandson, and he stopped me. He goes,
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he goes, man, God is doing so much, Jimmy. Here at the bridge, it was on a
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Wednesday night. He said, I see you.
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I said, what do you mean by that, Kit Patterson? He goes, I see you.
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He said, it'd be easy to get tired, be easy to get run down.
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He said, I see you, and he meant it in the best way. It was a
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friend sharpening another friend, iron sharpening iron.
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He's very good at that, and he wrote me again this morning, said, I see you.
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So, to me, it was like the Holy Spirit saying, hey,
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are you doing this? I had to check myself. I did a checkup today,
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and that's why I was saying, I rest into you, Lord,
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because it's easy when God's blessed you with
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jurisdiction, blessed you with authority, and you know
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you're walking in that to start to kind of shoulder yourself a little bit,
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and I found myself getting tired. Yeah, here lately just
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part of it's because my house is completely torn apart right now.
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That doesn't help. I'm not resting well in my own home because I'm breathing
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fumes all night, shellac or whatever they stain, whatever
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they're doing, but I realized, ah, I'm getting tired
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because I'm not going back to my source.
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So, this morning I completely ride the ship on that
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and said, Lord, I just rest in you. I came in refreshed.
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Wow, that's so good. It just took a second.
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It didn't take hours or two days. It just took recognizing.
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Scripture says that that humility is really the entry point, the access
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point to grace at the end of the day. No doubt.
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It gives grace to the humble. Yes, he does.
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And that grace is part of that authority. It's that power, the ability, the
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authority that we need to rest in whatever he has
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us doing and not be striving and laboring and straining.
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Gosh, everything we've said just all dovetails in. I mean,
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because as you were saying that, I'm thinking it means you're secure
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in who you are, so you're confident. But the confidence isn't
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who you are, it's who he makes you to be. And it's in him because he's the
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source, not us. And when I get that order right,
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it clicks and I felt that lift off of me driving in.
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I just was like, I started laughing out loud, literally in my car. I know it's
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weird. I'm driving down the road in my SUV
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laughing, but I just felt this peace, you know, that peace that passes all
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understanding that literally guards and garrisons the heart. I just
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rested in it and I was like, God, you're so good.
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And all it took was a shift. It just took a nanosecond.
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And oh man, I remember the days when it would take months to do that.
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Yeah, you gave the practical wisdom earlier. There's power in pausing
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and it's not something we're good at these days.
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We live in a fast-paced, frantic, distracted,
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you know, one thing to the next culture. There's not a lot of pause, not a lot of
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built-in opportunities for us to just step back and reflect. It's
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it's go, go, go. And I think you have to really be intentional
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if you're going to do that. Brother, you nail it.
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I'm looking up something because I want to find this.
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Yeah, I love that word intentional. That's one of my favorite words in the
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whole dictionary because
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I don't stumble into grace. I don't stumble
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into authority. I don't stumble into mercy.
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There's an intentionality that has to happen that we have to
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walk in. I wanted to share this, just some friends that have been
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supporting the podcast, have been encouraging us.
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And before I read that, I just I want to land the plane on this because if
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you're listening today and wherever you are, you may be in
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your car, you may be, who knows, wherever you are
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and you're listening to this, Pastor Brian, I want to encourage you
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that when I said it just takes a nanosecond,
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it's really the truth. What I did when I said,
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Lord, I rest into you, it was literally a step of repentance.
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Repentance for me is pivoting where you are and
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in facing Him again. To return is to reface.
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You face Him again. And I just turned and realized, oh my gosh, running and gunning.
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Things are going, things are snapping and popping at the church. Exciting
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season to be in, Christmas is happening, kitchen cabinets are jacked up, you know,
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just life's happening in very weird real time.
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And it just took my gaze away a little bit. Not on purpose, I mean, I wasn't
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nothing nefarious. And I just realized, whoa, I need to
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reset my gaze. I need to reface Him. I need to return. I need to repent.
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It's a great way to put that. And that's what I did and gosh, it just lifted off.
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And I want to encourage you, you can literally reface, you can
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return, you can repent, you can turn towards Him
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right now. Here's what the temptation and repentance
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is that we're going to spend all of our time talking about the stuff we
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missed or we messed up on. But all that does, that just puts that, that's what
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you're facing. To reface, to return, to repent means to
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literally turn. That's not the star of the show. The star of the show of repentance is you facing Him.
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You look at Him not in fear either that He's going to reject you or spank you.
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You look at Him in love and go, oh God, you're so good. Thank you.
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Thank you. And as you do that by pure physics, you're putting everything
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else behind you. That's right. It's at your back because now you're
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facing Him. And I just connected the dots on that
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this morning. I didn't say, Lord, I'm repenting.
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I just said, Lord, I look at you. I mean, I didn't even go that way. It didn't make,
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it didn't sound very spiritual either. It just sounded like me talking to
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to somebody that's in authority over my life and saying,
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wow, I just rest into you today. You know, what was I doing? I was looking at Him.
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I was gazing. Yeah. Well, you said, you know, you don't
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stumble into grace, right? And that's because it's a product of
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relationship. You don't stumble into a good relationship either.
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I don't know a relationship that's not intentional. For example,
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you and I are both married. It's work, but it's joyful work. And
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sometimes it's hard work. Sometimes it's dying to self, but it's all
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intentional. You have to be intentional. If we're not
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being intentional at it, you can feel the lapse in relationship
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and connection. There'll be a lack of grace in the relationship.
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Oh boy, wherever. We don't want to go there. And so, yeah, we just turn. We
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repent. We reface. We turn to Him and just gaze on Him. And then we
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rest in that. And then He says, hey, you're back. Welcome
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back. Just waiting for your turn. Wow. Well, that's a good Christmas gift to
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give yourself this year is face Him again. Come on. Hey, I want to give some
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kudos to some folks that have been blessing us. Randy Black,
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he has a great website on the Bible. I mean, it's just he reads
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scripture. It's a podcast. And he's just a cool guy, great guy.
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And he blessed us on our last you and I do. I called it the winds of
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change last one you and I did hours before. So thanks, Randy.
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Appreciate it. Adam Curry, he gave us a big boost.
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77,000 sats. Striper boost. Here's Striper Boost.
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That's a striper boost. Adam Curry, we love you. He actually just did.
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I've actually been chatting with him while we're doing the podcast.
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I saw his name come up. So yeah, he said, great. I got another podcast
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to listen to. But he's in Italy right now. Now, I think he's going to be,
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I think they may be in Amsterdam. They're going to be all, this is
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when they travel. I can't keep up with it. But he just did an interview
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with a radio station, talked about his face. And he said, hey, I'm
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talking about his faith and talking about his life and whatnot. They've
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been trying to get him on to do this. So he did that. But they'll be in
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Italy for the next few days over Christmas celebrating his sister's
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birthday. So hey, man, have fun. Curry and the Keeper, check it out.
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They have a great, great podcast. Also Barman. I don't know who Barman
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is, but he also boosted us, you and I for that. Thank you. That and
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Adam Curry boosted again. And then Barman, I'm just looking at all the
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names that's here. So yeah, man, just appreciate you guys showing up
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and just being a blessing to us. We want to encourage you. Feel free to
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write us. We want to hear from you. It's great hearing from you, hearing
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what you're going through and what's going on in your life. Share the
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good stuff, the hard stuff. And we're here to pray for you and encourage
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you. Well, listen, we're going to land the plane because we got things to
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do. Thanks for having me back. Absolutely. We got a staff lunch coming
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up. Thank you for joining us today at Living Up in a Down World. That
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is our heart for you to keep living up in a down world. We are out.
