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It's fine.
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We're back today.
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This is living up in the town world and we have a special guest today back in the studio
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with us.
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Who might that be?
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That would be Chevy.
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Mr. Chevy.
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He's so excited.
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He is so happy to be here.
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It's so funny.
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He knows.
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He's the smartest dog we've ever had.
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Yeah.
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It's like he knows we're going up to the church.
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We didn't come in earlier today.
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We came in just to do the podcast because we've been traveling and he knew.
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He just went to the door and he was so excited.
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We let him out of the car.
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He said, oh no, you didn't bring his leash.
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I said, he doesn't need his leash.
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He doesn't need it.
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He went right to the door.
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I know.
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He went right to where he's supposed to and he did.
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He went right to our studio.
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He's pretty predictable.
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He's cute.
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Yes.
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But anyway, it's good to have him.
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He's chilling out.
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He's laying down.
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As long as I don't snap my fingers, he'll be fine.
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Please don't.
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I know.
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It's the weirdest thing.
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I know.
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I don't understand that.
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That's because that's how I get his attention at home.
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Don't do it.
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No, I'm not.
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I'm just going to put it in my hands.
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Oh, I see.
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Welcome to the show, family.
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It's good to have everybody.
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Again, I said it earlier, but this is Jimmy and Annette Pruitt.
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We are lead pastors at Bridge Church in Fredericksburg, Texas.
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That's our day job and our night job and our weekend job.
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It's our job.
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24-7.
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It's our 24-7 job, but we love doing the podcast.
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We just enjoy having a different format to share our hearts and our thoughts and what
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God's doing in our lives and in the world.
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It's just a different angle, a different way of saying what we say.
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It's not formal like a service, like a church service.
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We can be relaxed and silly and make mistakes and fumble and stumble over our words and
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it doesn't matter.
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But all that, I love podcasting and I love it.
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I love the whole premise of podcasting.
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Spending time with Adam Curry is always such a blessing because he has such a heart for
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podcasting.
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The guy invented it, so that's pretty cool.
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What, 20, 19 years ago and nearly 20 now coming up on 20.
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Really?
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Yeah, yeah, it was 19.
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So anyway, when we talk about podcasting, what he loves about it, first of all, it's
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decentralized.
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Nobody owns it.
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You can't control it and it'll never be regulated by the government.
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It can't be.
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The only thing it gets regulated by is like if you're being paid by Spotify or you have
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paid sponsors.
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Which we don't.
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We have Zilch.
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Yes.
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And we're not trying to either, but we're not doing it for that.
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We're doing it because we want to share good news and help people live up in a down world.
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And really, it's no different than us sitting in our living room or in our hot tub or whatever
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and talking.
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And we just talk about issues and things that are going on in the world, in our church,
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in our family.
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And it's really no different.
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We just get on a microphone and air it out to the world.
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I know.
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It's just a different approach.
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And what we hope is that the things we do air out to the world, that it'll be life-giving
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for people and it'll be helpful, especially for people who are on the journey of faith.
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Maybe they're coming back to it.
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Maybe you're exploring it.
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And we also want to show you another side of pastors that we're real people too.
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There's not like a separate category for like male, female pastors.
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They're so weird and it's always funny.
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Now through the years, I've been in this 40 years, you've been in it 30 years.
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And what's funny is how when you're around people that don't know you and they find out
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you're a pastor, they change how they act around you.
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They get all...they try to clean up their act, so to speak, which is comical to me.
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We were on the airplane last night and we were visiting with another man named Jimmy
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from Bernie and he was talking.
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We never told him what we did for a living.
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He heard us talk about being a podcaster, but he didn't ask us what we did for a living.
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And I thought, you don't want to tell him, do you?
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Because he's going to clean up his mouth because he had a mouth on him.
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And he was a great guy.
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Super nice guy.
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Great guy.
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And yeah, it was cool sitting there, but I was waiting to see if you were going to say...
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And I was waiting to see if he was going to ask us, but we didn't ask him either.
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Here's why I don't do it.
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Because if someone's already dropped the F-bomb a few times, or they're being themselves...
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They'll feel ashamed.
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They'll feel terrible.
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Yeah.
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I don't ever want to make anyone feel that way or try to create some false atmosphere
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of righteousness and holiness.
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Well, think about it.
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When you first met Adam Curry and he said the F-bomb a few times, but he didn't know.
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I didn't flinch.
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Well, and when I worked at a dental firm...
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Speaking of, he just texted me.
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Everybody.
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It was F this, F this, F this.
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And to them, it wasn't derogatory.
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It's just, that's the way they talk.
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To me, I was like, oh, I finally had to get to a point where I said, can you please not
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say that?
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It really...
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It's just a word I don't really care for.
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They got better.
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I won't say they completely cleaned up their language, but it got better.
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But they knew around me, I just didn't...
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It wasn't something that I...
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It's a little different because it's an ongoing work environment where you're around people.
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You know them and they know you.
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I'm always trying to be considerate of where other people are.
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I'm not talking about cussing per se, just life in general.
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You want to be aware and socially savvy and be in the zone when you're with people.
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Because the last thing I want to do is create discomfort.
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Exactly.
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But what's funny is, is a lot of times I'll be in these conversations, whether it's on
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a plane or standing in a line somewhere, and they'll be going on and running their mouth
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off and saying all kinds of stuff.
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And I just smile.
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I don't...
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Again, I'm not going to try to make them feel anyway.
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And then they finally ask, oh, what do you do?
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And then that's when I have to go, I'm a motivational speaker.
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Right.
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Or a laugh coach.
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I've done that in the past.
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I've done that in the past.
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I don't anymore.
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I'm proud.
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I'm so proud that I'm a pastor.
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In a day where pastors are very vilified, because there's been a lot of people spin
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out.
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I mean, there have been a lot of mistakes made and church has come an aberration of
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what it used to be.
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I know.
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So sad.
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Our hearts to keep this community, this sense of community and family and be humble.
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And we're not trying to do anything.
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I won't be buying an airplane anytime soon.
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You know, anything like that.
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No, you won't.
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But just living in humility and really walking out the teachings of Jesus.
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But a lot of churches have moved towards kind of a, I don't know what to say, cookie cutter
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almost like they all have the same formula.
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We're not trying to do that.
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Well, and we don't have all the answers, but we know the person that does.
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There you go.
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And it's the person of Jesus Christ.
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If we can point people to Him to get to know Him, then we've done what we're supposed to
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do.
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But we don't have all the answers.
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No, we don't.
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If there's ever a pastor, anyone that says they know it all, run, forest run.
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Because I'm always learning.
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Every day there's some lesson.
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Also, I mean, and I love this about us together as a couple, we're teachable.
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Some people get to the age we are, they're really young, you know, little past teenagers.
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But you get to an age where you kind of get this sense of, hey, I've been there, done
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that.
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And then, you know, people come up and they're excited about something.
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You go, oh yeah, I did that 30 years ago.
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You know, I don't, we don't think like that with people.
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We go, hey, that's great.
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Celebrate the win, celebrate what they're learning.
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And I don't like to throw cold water on people's fires either.
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You know, even if I see that it may be a little over the top or outside the bounds, like, hey,
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you go get them.
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I always say this.
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I say run with a vision.
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Run with a vision.
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We'll see where it goes.
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Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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And when it doesn't, we're there to help clean it up, you know, and help them and navigate
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things and navigate life.
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Absolutely.
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So, we've had a busy couple of weeks.
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Wow.
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We just got back from the K-Love Awards show.
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It was a whole weekend.
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It wasn't, we went to the show on Sunday night, but the weekend started Friday night.
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And it was, we took Adam and Tina along.
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That was their first experience.
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We went last year, came back and said, you have to go with us next year because this
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is going to be an annual event.
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And it was amazing.
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I mean, we're kind of tired, as you can tell.
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We don't have the skip in our step.
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It's only because we have a major jet lag too.
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It's 4 11 p.m. and I need coffee.
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Well, and yesterday, our plane got delayed and delayed and delayed.
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We didn't get home until-
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A lot of weather stuff.
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Yeah.
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We didn't get, it was late, late, late last night, early in the morning, really before
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we got to sleep.
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We had to cancel all of our appointments today.
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We needed to just relax and really take in everything that God did over the last few
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days.
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Processing everything.
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Gosh.
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It was so much.
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So much.
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We're going to add songs that we heard that we added to our playlist.
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We're going to have our worship pastor add them to our church playlist.
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Right.
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And, but they bring, they have so much more meaning because we heard from the artists
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themselves who wrote the songs, who gave context of the song, where they were.
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Most of the songs, I noticed again, last year they said most of the songs were written out
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of COVID.
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I believe the same thing as this year, a lot of them were written out of the experience
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of COVID.
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Yeah, COVID inspired.
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Yes, totally.
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Because of the trauma and the uncertainty that it all brought, especially for musicians.
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Think about it.
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Yes.
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Certain jobs were like, oh yeah, you're necessary.
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Oh, you're not necessary.
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Yes.
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And they got put in that category of not essential, which I would beg to differ.
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But anyway, they got put in that category and so they're stalled out for a while.
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But they had, the good thing is, is they wrote the most amazing songs because they had the
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time and they're powerful.
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I've noticed more of the songs that are coming out are worshipful songs.
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Very much so.
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More so than Christian pop.
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And I appreciate that.
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It was very refreshing.
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They have a lot more depth.
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Yes.
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There's more depth.
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There's more angst, you know, in a sense, wrestling with things.
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I love it.
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They sound like a lot of Psalms.
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The Psalms can start off pretty negative.
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I mean, like, oh God, why do my enemies overtake me?
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You know, I used to walk to go to the temple with them and now they've turned on me.
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Nobody cares.
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Nobody, I mean, and then the Psalmist, whether it's David or the other Psalmist, they have
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these but God moments where they pivot and they begin to say, but your goodness follows
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me all my life.
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Your goodness chases me.
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I see the evidence of your goodness all over my life.
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That's a great song.
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No, Josh Baldwin.
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No, no.
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I see the evidence of your goodness.
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Jeremy Camp, honey.
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Can we bet?
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Can I?
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What do you want to bet?
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Okay, I'm going to look it up.
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$100 bill.
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$100.
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I saw one in your purse.
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I want that.
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Okay.
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$100 bill.
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Okay.
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It's mine.
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Thank you very much.
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Oh, right.
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Hey, I'm all on.
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I'm all in this.
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I can't wait.
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This is going to be fun.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm going to look it up.
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We were just listening to it in the car coming over here.
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Yeah, and it was Jeremy Camp.
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This is fun.
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I don't win often in these kinds of things.
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You're not going to win.
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But I won this one.
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I'm going to do a victory dance.
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No, I want to probably hurt myself.
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You're so funny.
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Are you still?
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Is it taking you that long to look it up?
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I've got it right here.
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I'm looking it up.
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I've got it right here.
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Okay, you look it up because my phone is...
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Oh, this is going to be rich.
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This is going to be fun.
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Let's see.
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It is Josh Baldwin.
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No, it is not.
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I have it right here.
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Let's see.
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Oh, I actually turned it on.
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I wasn't going to play it.
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I didn't mean to play it.
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All right, here it is.
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Evidence, Josh Baldwin.
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This is the radio version we were listening to.
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No way.
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It's on the live album as well.
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Honey.
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There's no way.
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Well, I get the hundred because it's in my billboard.
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We bet $100 bill.
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You owe me.
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It sounds just like Jeremy Camp.
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They must sound too much alike.
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Voice-wise, yeah.
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I could see how you could get that, but it's not.
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That feels really good.
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What am I going to get with $100?
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No, nothing.
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A steak dinner.
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Tina is the same way I am.
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We know the songs, but putting the artist with it is so hard.
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They do sound so much alike.
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You were willing to go to the mat on it right here in front of God and everybody in podcast.
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It's for the show.
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It's for the show.
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Wow.
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Tina and Adam do everything that... I had to tell them, please don't put this on your
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show, a little faux pas you and I had, because I don't want all of our dirty laundry aired
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out.
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Well, let's tell our faux pas anyway.
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No, I don't want to do it.
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It's funny.
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Let's talk about... No, no, no.
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Let's just talk about the theme.
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The theme.
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This is what we were going to talk about.
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This is what we want to encourage you with, because we've got some friends that are going
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through a... Everybody does, and everybody's going through stuff, but this particular couple
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is going through a truly life-changing, trajectory-changing moment.
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I mean, everything in their life literally just changed.
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Just changed.
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And not for the better, although God can redeem all of that.
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Yes, He can.
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But right now, in the short term... Turn what's bad for good.
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Yeah.
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In the short term, it's scary and hard.
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And they've been shaky initially, because it just took the breath away, because it was
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unexpected, and there was actually a different outcome expected.
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Well, you can talk about it.
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Just don't talk about who it is.
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No, I don't want to do that.
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Okay.
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There was just a different outcome that we all thought...
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They already put it all over Facebook and everything, all the way.
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Okay.
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Well, they all thought it was going to go one way.
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It went another way.
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It went totally the other.
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And this is the challenge with Christians, is we think that if we pray, pray, pray, we
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say all the right things that we're always going to get the best outcome.
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But the outcome may be different than what we think, because God's got a bigger plan
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than we know.
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So that's exactly what happened.
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They were expecting one thing.
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They were praying, believing.
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All of us were standing together as friends and community and standing for them.
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And when it went the other way, now you have a massive choice.
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You're presented with an option, with an opportunity for growth.
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And Annette and I, you and I have talked about this back early in the shows, in our earlier
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episodes that when we got fired, we went through a hard, hard thing where... And it wasn't
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just me getting fired.
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It was us.
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We got fired.
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And it was completely out of our controls because I took a stand for what I thought
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was righteous and true.
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And we paid the high price of losing everything.
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We lost our savings, we lost our retirement.
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I mean, it just... We lost it because we had to use it quickly.
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Yeah, to live.
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Because everything was so unexpected.
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But anyway, we went through that.
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But here's the thing that we knew immediately.
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We had these conversations in the car and faith was 13, 14, 15 during that time.
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And we had these conversations and said, we have a choice to make here.
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We can get bitter and angry or we can choose to be better by trusting God no matter what
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the temporary circumstances look like.
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Because what we're facing, if you'll remember these conversations, I said it this way, because
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here's what happened.
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When the bottom drops out of your life and you preach every Sunday of your life, your
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adult life, you're going to have to work out the messages you preached.
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Exactly.
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You're going to have to live them out.
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You're going to get tested first.
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Yeah, you have to walk it out.
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And we had to make a decision, are we going to believe the facts or are we going to believe
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truth?
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There's a difference between truth and facts.
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Facts are temporary and subject to change.
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So you may be in a circumstance and the fact is it's painful.
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The fact is you're confused.
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The fact is it hurts.
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Or you're wrongly accused of something.
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Or maybe you got caught doing something.
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You got busted.
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I mean, it can be whatever got you there, you're there.
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Whether it was your doing or not.
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At the end of the day, you're there.
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You are where you are.
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Facts are it hurts.
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Facts are a lot of things in your life are going to have to change.
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Your comfort, everything you've known that's familiar may be taken away.
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And that's what we experienced.
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We lost everything and we had to move.
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It was humiliating.
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It was embarrassing.
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I mean, so many pieces of that.
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But we made a decision early on.
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We said we're not going to worry about the facts.
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We're going to stand on the truth of what we know about the character and nature of
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God.
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And we're going to stand on the truth of God's Word.
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And that's what we did.
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We leaned into the Word of God and we leaned into Him in prayer.
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Now, some of our prayers weren't pretty.
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I mean, some of our conversations weren't pretty.
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They were hard.
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Because it was hard.
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You lose everything that you've worked for and there doesn't seem to be a clear path.
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I mean, it is devastating.
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And you grieve it.
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And we were in our 50s, which was really hard because it's not like...
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If you're looking for a job, especially as a pastor, they're looking for the young ones,
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the ones that are starting out where they can be paid less.
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I was going to say the ones that don't have to pay their experience.
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And so when you have an experienced pastor and then they see you aren't at a church anymore
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and it wasn't your day, it's like, what is it about that person?
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It looks suspect.
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It does.
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It does.
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Whether it was into your control or whether you did the right thing or not is irrelevant.
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It just looks bad on your resume.
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So we had to go through that.
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So our friends are experiencing something dynamically the same.
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And so our encouragement to them has been stay the course, don't give up, don't quit.
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God's in control.
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Look for God in it.
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Yes.
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He is not abandoning you.
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I love that, Annette.
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Look for God in it.
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Because Jesus was in the storm.
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He didn't just show up and still the storm.
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He was asleep in the storm.
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I mean, he was on the boat crashed out in dreamland and they were freaking out.
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The disciples, the storm blew up and they went down to...
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They're like, how can you sleep during this storm?
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We're about to perish.
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We're going to die.
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And Jesus said, how long must I bear with you?
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Oh, you have little faith.
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And then he spoke to the storm, peace be still.
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Why could he speak to it?
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Because he was in it with them.
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Right.
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He didn't speak from the outside in, he spoke from within.
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And that's the thing, look for God in it.
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We want to encourage you, whatever you're going through.
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I know we have listeners who have cancer issues and going through, have gotten terrible diagnoses
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that are getting treated.
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Family issues.
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Family issues or they've gotten away from God.
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Life happened and they're trying to get, find their way back, you know, and get back on
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the path.
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And for whatever, wherever you are and wherever you find yourself, look for God in it.
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He's there.
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He's not left.
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And that's the thing I think you and I never let go of that worked is that we never believe
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that God left us.
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We never wavered on that.
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We had a very strong foundation and we questioned where we're going to go from here.
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Of course.
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What's next?
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But we never lost our faith, which was, you know, just basically because we had had a
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long, we had a lot of experience with God.
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And so we knew because of our past that he had never, he won't leave us.
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The thing is, is we're going through this with this family and then we go to K-Love
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and it's happening.
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The continual effect of it was while we were at K-Love and we're trying to enjoy and get
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out what we can of that experience while we're grieving for a family.
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Right.
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What we noticed was that the whole theme at K-Love was that very thing we were sharing
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and trying to help this couple as they're going through the worst time of their whole
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entire life.
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And that is, he will never leave you.
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He will never forsake you.
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He will come.
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He's with you in the storm.
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You will overcome this and that God's going to show you something that you have to go
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through things for God to get something to you sometimes.
514
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Failure is not final.
515
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,160
No, it's not.
516
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,160
Nor is it fatal.
517
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160
No, it's not.
518
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,640
And you know, we've talked about this too in the past as hard as that was for a year.
519
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,640
It was hard on our whole family.
520
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,640
Oh, it was rough.
521
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,640
Really it was longer than a year.
522
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,360
It was a year that we were unemployed but then it was another two years of still being
523
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:20,440
in the wilderness because we weren't in our full destination that we knew God had for
524
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,760
us eventually.
525
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,200
But what, I don't, we've said this over and over.
526
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:34,000
We don't have regrets because we learned so much in that and we needed to learn how to
527
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,920
be better pastors for a church.
528
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,680
We needed to learn how to minister to people out of their hurt based on what-
529
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,680
How to forgive.
530
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,220
Yes, how to forgive.
531
00:22:43,220 --> 00:22:46,800
How to forgive betrayal when no one's saying, I'm sorry.
532
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,160
When no, yes, and they weren't.
533
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,400
Nobody was saying that.
534
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,280
And so we had to learn a lot of lessons that you can't learn if everything is always going
535
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280
your way.
536
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,280
That's right.
537
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,280
That's right.
538
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,280
That's true.
539
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:04,800
And I don't like this dynamic, but it's just true.
540
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,800
Not a fact.
541
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,240
It's the truth.
542
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:14,600
And my old boss, Dave Ramsey said it this way, the pain of staying the same has to outweigh
543
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,100
the pain of change.
544
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:22,160
People do not change until there's a high degree of pain.
545
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,760
For example, our culture.
546
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:32,760
Recently Donald Trump did a thing out in the Bronx in New York and had a massive showing.
547
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,880
Tons of people, thousands and thousands of people that were-
548
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,320
Was it like a hundred thousand people?
549
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,720
No, that was in New York.
550
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,720
This is a little bit different.
551
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,560
This is not quite that number, but still it was staggering because that is a completely
552
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:49,800
blue democratic area, mostly African American and various minorities and immigrants and
553
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,160
whatnot, which is a beautiful dynamic there.
554
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,400
But they've been classically Democrat, big time.
555
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,160
Well, there's been a massive pendulum swing.
556
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Well, why?
557
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,800
It's because the pain of staying the same now outweighs the pain of change.
558
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520
And the change that needs to happen is we need to get our economy back.
559
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,840
We need to get our national security and defense back.
560
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
We need to get our borders back.
561
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,680
All these things that need to happen, we've got to get integrity back in the White House
562
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,240
and politics, not that it's ever been total.
563
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,440
We need to get the Bible back in the White House.
564
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,920
We've got to get back to God's Word and the foundations of our nation.
565
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,940
So now I'm not going to wax along on that, but it's an important point and it makes the
566
00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:36,240
point that if people just say, oh, it's getting worse.
567
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,640
I can't afford groceries.
568
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,040
I can't fill my car up anymore.
569
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,240
Well, I can't even afford two cars.
570
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,200
And God forbid I try to buy a house right now with the interest rates at seven plus
571
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,200
percent.
572
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,560
You know, there are so many things have been locked down.
573
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,840
And how can I build a house at $380 a square foot?
574
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,760
You know, everything is just gone.
575
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,840
We were just talking about grocery prices and even articles out this last couple of
576
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:06,280
weeks on fast food prices like at McDonald's and Water Burger and all these.
577
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,000
They've just gone insane.
578
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,760
And people are like, people are beginning to groan under the weight of that.
579
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,480
And all of it's starting to touch people's pain points, which now even people who were
580
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,280
classically Democrat, I'm not knocking.
581
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,800
It's beyond the red and blue anyway.
582
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,920
So don't hear what I'm not saying.
583
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,440
I'm not pro pushing anything other than let's get back to God's Word, get our country back
584
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,440
to its foundation.
585
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,160
Now, however that gets, I'm going to be with that platform, which are the one that's closest
586
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,960
because there's not any perfect platform.
587
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:44,960
But the pain point now, people that were classically blue, Democrat are saying, you know what?
588
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,160
We got to be able to afford, we got to be able to raise our kids.
589
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,360
We've got to be able to afford food and gas.
590
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:50,360
We've got to be able to live.
591
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:55,680
We've got to be able to heat our home, our apartment, our dwelling this winter, this
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00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,240
next winter when it rolls around.
593
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,940
And right now it doesn't look like we'll be able to do that.
594
00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:01,960
And I can't afford to go out and buy an electric car.
595
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,720
I've got a car that's running fine.
596
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,960
It's been going well for 15, 20 years.
597
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,400
I'm not going to go buy a new car because the government's going to make me.
598
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:15,720
So people are beginning to feel the pain points and that pain is causing change, which really
599
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,640
will result in a better outcome.
600
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200
But it's going to be painful to go through it.
601
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,200
And that's what we're doing right now.
602
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,480
That goes, that's also true in our life.
603
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,660
Normally it takes pain to wake us up.
604
00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:31,620
It takes pain, suffering to get our attention.
605
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:36,840
People that I have known that have had like a cancer diagnosis, I'm thinking of my friend
606
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,560
Mark Berry, you know, life's been good for him in terms of he's successful.
607
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,400
He's made a good living.
608
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,400
He's sharp.
609
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,280
He's a smart guy, a musician, loves the Lord.
610
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Entrepreneur.
611
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,280
Entrepreneur for real.
612
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,040
I mean, really doing it at a high level.
613
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,920
Now he's doing this great ministry with VR stuff and going into hospitals and giving
614
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,240
people that are at the end of their life, just a treat, just a life changing event.
615
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,920
So he's doing these amazing things and then he gets a cancer diagnosis and it's scary.
616
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
And the doctors are saying, you're going to have treatment, blah, blah, blah.
617
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,600
It goes down the list.
618
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,480
And we pray, reaches out to me, we pray, we believe God, we had our church pray, put him
619
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,720
on our church prayer list.
620
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,880
And he had a turnaround.
621
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,160
But what it did, it changed his perspective.
622
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,640
The pain of staying the same outweighed the pain of change.
623
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,640
He wanted to change.
624
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,640
And so what he's done, he's developed these VR glasses and this program where he goes
625
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:43,320
into palliative care, hospice, and treats people to an experience.
626
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,260
Somebody who's at the end of their life.
627
00:27:45,260 --> 00:27:47,200
What is something you've always wanted to do that you can't?
628
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,680
Well, I always thought it'd be cool to go to outer space.
629
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,080
I can make that happen.
630
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:59,520
They put on the VR goggles, family's in the room, and they get to watch their loved one
631
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:05,080
fly through space via a digital world, a virtual world.
632
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,720
But what brought that about?
633
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,720
Pain.
634
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Scaring.
635
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,300
I may be at the end of my life and now he has compassion for those who are.
636
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:21,680
So anyway, tell us about how these songs ministered to us and how we kept looking at each other
637
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,000
going, oh my gosh, this is exactly what we're talking about.
638
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,560
It's just, you could tell they were written out of pain.
639
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:38,040
And like we just said is that these artists, especially in COVID, when they couldn't perform,
640
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080
they couldn't go in and.
641
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,640
They couldn't do concerts.
642
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,640
They couldn't do concerts.
643
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,200
They couldn't do anything.
644
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,340
They were stuck at their home.
645
00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:51,960
And so they spent their time rotting out of their pain.
646
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:57,040
And I wonder if some of the songs were written partly.
647
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:04,240
And then when we came out of it and they were able to perform again, get in the studios,
648
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:10,200
if they were able to write the end of their songs during that time where there was a turnaround.
649
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,120
And I don't know.
650
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,360
I see that happening because of what happened.
651
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Or it could, or just those that knew had enough of a foundation that they were writing their
652
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,040
songs out of pain, but said, I know God's going to get me through it because they have
653
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,120
history in God.
654
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,560
And that's the thing.
655
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,780
Once you have history in God, you know, he's going to get you through it no matter what.
656
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:35,240
It just won't.
657
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:42,080
It probably most likely will not look like what you think because I, you know, when we
658
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:48,520
were going through the darkest times in different times of our life, we never ended up where
659
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,080
we thought we would end up.
660
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,080
Ever.
661
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Ever in life.
662
00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Even my darkest times being alone after my divorce, I would have never in a million years
663
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,960
imagined myself remarrying someone like you.
664
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:17,120
And then my whole trajectory of my life changed spiritually, physically, just in what God
665
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,280
was going to do with me, how he was going to use me.
666
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,440
I was in banking.
667
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,020
I was in real estate for years.
668
00:30:24,020 --> 00:30:28,400
Never thought that God would move me into a pastor role.
669
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:36,880
And so it's just amazing because what he has for us is so much more than what we can ever
670
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:46,480
imagine or think because he is, we just need to see him for who he is.
671
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,480
He's God.
672
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,480
He's God.
673
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,480
And he's good.
674
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:56,160
And he's a good God no matter what, even when our circumstances don't look good, he's still
675
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,160
good.
676
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,440
And I think that's one of the things that we really had to learn through all of our
677
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,800
challenges in life is he's got a better plan.
678
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,780
We think we have a better plan in our head.
679
00:31:08,780 --> 00:31:13,040
We think, oh, well, if he'll do this for me, I'm going to do this.
680
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,120
It's going to be greater.
681
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,080
And sometimes don't we pray like that?
682
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Yes.
683
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,840
Hey, God, I need your help on this.
684
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,720
In fact, let me go ahead and give you how to do that.
685
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,680
And if you do this, I will do this for you the rest of my life.
686
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:31,000
And then 10 minutes later after he does it, we go back to who we were.
687
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,360
And he's just, he's a better God.
688
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,760
It's because we want the relief.
689
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,760
We want the quick fix.
690
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,760
Yes.
691
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,760
He's into crafting character.
692
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,040
He's into sanctification where he wants to walk us through a process.
693
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,240
We think the miracle is instantaneous.
694
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:51,560
I think the miracle is someone who can endure and persevere through a process and come out
695
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,200
on the other side better.
696
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200
That's the miracle.
697
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,200
It is.
698
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,720
We want to think, I'm not going to snap my finger because he'll go nuts.
699
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Shebi's doing great.
700
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Thanks for joining us today, Shebi.
701
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,880
But here's the thing, people want a finger snap miracle.
702
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640
They want God to show up and just fix it.
703
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,640
Why?
704
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,640
Because we want relief.
705
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Because we want relief.
706
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,640
We want relief in the moment.
707
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,960
And yet God says, I love you so much that I'm not going to ruin your opportunity to learn.
708
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,960
There is a process.
709
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,200
Progress always comes with a process.
710
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,200
We heard a sermon on that by Tarrin Wells who killed it and knocked it out of the park
711
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,200
on Sunday.
712
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,200
Oh my gosh, that was a great sermon.
713
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,040
They hosted a church service basically with Elevation Worship and Tarrin Wells, who is
714
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:42,600
his own musician, who is amazing, but he is also pastoring a church now in Austin.
715
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,480
He brought a message called, process.
716
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,480
To progress.
717
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,920
No, progress is a process.
718
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Something like that.
719
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,240
I'm getting that exactly right.
720
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,240
But the principle is that.
721
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,320
That if you want to progress and you want to grow and you want to move forward and develop,
722
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,640
there is a process to go through.
723
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,040
And it is a lot longer than we think it will be.
724
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Isn't it though?
725
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,040
My goodness.
726
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,800
Tina and I just kept looking at each other throughout his message, throughout all the
727
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,220
different songs, the different artists when they would share about their songs.
728
00:33:15,220 --> 00:33:16,960
We would just look at each other and go, what?
729
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,960
I know.
730
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,960
God just.
731
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,960
It was the same message over and over.
732
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,280
It was the same message.
733
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,280
It was quite remarkable to be a part of that.
734
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,920
It reminded, okay, I want two things.
735
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,520
Number one, I want to share Romans 8 28.
736
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Because we were talking, I was like, what is the scripture that really captures the
737
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,640
heart of what we talked about?
738
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640
It is this one.
739
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,640
It is Romans 8 28.
740
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,640
If you have a Bible, I would love for you to jot that down or remember that.
741
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Romans 8 28.
742
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,920
And it says this, and we know that in all things, God works for the good of those who
743
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,440
love him and who have been called according to his purpose.
744
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280
It doesn't say works for the good for everybody.
745
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,560
It says for those who love him and those who have been called according to his purpose.
746
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,120
In other words, those who he has wooed to himself and we've said, yes, Jesus, yes, I
747
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,120
want to be a Christian.
748
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,840
I want you to change my life, change my heart, change me from the inside out.
749
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,400
I give you my life.
750
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,400
I'm now saved.
751
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,400
I'm now born again.
752
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,400
I'm yours.
753
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:19,080
And he says that all things, we know that in all things, God works for the good.
754
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,000
That's what we have to understand that his goodness is chasing us.
755
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,920
His mercy is chasing us.
756
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,320
I want to quote the words to that song by Josh Baldwin.
757
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,040
The one I thought was Jeremy Camp.
758
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,040
It's okay.
759
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,120
I'm not going to razz you on that one.
760
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,400
It's so crazy because literally they sound identical.
761
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,720
If Jeremy Camp sang that song, I would think it was, I mean, you would think it was Josh
762
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Baldwin.
763
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:44,720
I know.
764
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I know.
765
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:46,720
So listen to the lyrics to the song.
766
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:47,720
And as you're listening to the show.
767
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:48,720
We were listening to it on the way here.
768
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:51,600
Yeah, we were listening to the song and we're like, we need to do that as a church.
769
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We need to bring that in.
770
00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:55,520
The lyrics are all throughout my history.
771
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,400
Your faithfulness has walked beside me.
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00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:04,360
The winter storms made a way for spring in every season from where I'm standing.
773
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,360
And here's the course.
774
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,360
Listen to the course.
775
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,880
I see the evidence of your goodness all over my life, all over my life.
776
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:18,840
I see your promises in fulfillment all over my life, all over my life.
777
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,400
And it's just such a poignant reminder that we see the evidence of God's goodness.
778
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,760
It's not just that you bought a new car last year.
779
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600
It's not just that you got a promotion at that job.
780
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600
I'm not opposed to saying, Hey, that could be God's blessing.
781
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,480
I'm not opposed to that.
782
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
But there are bigger, more important things and it's your growth.
783
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,480
It's your development.
784
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,680
It's your maturity.
785
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,880
It's how you handle pain and disappointment.
786
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,840
And here's the thing.
787
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,680
It's okay to waver at first.
788
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Absolutely.
789
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,040
It's okay to question God and be human.
790
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,040
He can handle it.
791
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It's don't stay there.
792
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And that was our friends.
793
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Say that again.
794
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,200
That is so good.
795
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,480
It's okay to waver in your faith.
796
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,600
It's okay to question God, but don't stay there.
797
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:10,000
And our friends that were going through a tough time, there was a few days that it was
798
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tough, but they didn't stay there.
799
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,680
And that was my whole prayer for them.
800
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,680
That was my prayer for them too.
801
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It's God, please get them to the place that you can work.
802
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,920
You can stay bitter.
803
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,920
You can.
804
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,400
I really believed that it was just an emotional cry because they just took a hit.
805
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,920
They just took a life-changing hit.
806
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,720
And that's why I had a lot of patience about it.
807
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,920
When I heard, I got the text, I've lost my faith.
808
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And I said, no, you didn't lose your faith.
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00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Your faith's right there.
810
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,080
You just can't see it.
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You're numb.
812
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And I just tried to give counsel here and there.
813
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And not being preachy, but I am a preacher, so what do you expect?
814
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,280
Well, they wrote you.
815
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They wrote you.
816
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,280
So yeah, exactly.
817
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,760
But I love this family so much that I didn't want to so enter into empathy that I didn't
818
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,760
give them truth.
819
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,760
That's true.
820
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,280
And they need to hear truth in the middle of all that because there's going to be a
821
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,760
lot of people patting them on the back going, you should be mad.
822
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,040
You should respond.
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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,240
You should retaliate.
824
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,240
You should get revenge.
825
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:10,640
Which is not the right thing to do.
826
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,280
There are people around them that have that voice and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
827
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,280
We're bigger than that.
828
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,640
We're followers of Jesus and we have to respond accordingly to what we're learning.
829
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,640
And so you know what?
830
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,920
They turn the corner.
831
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,000
She said, I love the text.
832
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,000
I did not.
833
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,080
I never lost my faith.
834
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,080
He never left.
835
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,560
I'm like, ah, there it is.
836
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,040
After how many scriptures we had.
837
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,040
But that's okay.
838
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,040
But you know what?
839
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,040
There's only a few days.
840
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,760
It was quicker than I thought it would be.
841
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,640
And it doesn't mean that they're not going to have more bad days.
842
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,640
More bad days.
843
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,080
It's going to happen.
844
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,680
But for those of you that are listening today and you're hearing this and you're going,
845
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,960
I so relate to this because I'm in pain right now.
846
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:55,040
What would you say to somebody right now who's listening going, but you don't understand
847
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,040
my circumstances.
848
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Look for God in it.
849
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,040
I love that.
850
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,040
You have to.
851
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,400
That's one of the wisest things you've said maybe ever.
852
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Wow.
853
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,400
In it.
854
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,400
Wow.
855
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Look for God.
856
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,400
It's so simple.
857
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,400
It just came to me.
858
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Wow.
859
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,400
Because he's in every detail.
860
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,360
He's numbered every hair on our head.
861
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,400
I have so many hairs that fall out, but he knows those numbers that are left.
862
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,400
I mean, it's so hilarious.
863
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,400
I don't know.
864
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400
They may get a point where maybe too much.
865
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,400
No, I'm just kidding.
866
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:31,200
But he knows, if he knows every hair and he says, I delight in every detail of your life.
867
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,200
Every detail.
868
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,200
And because he does that, we have to put our big girl panties on.
869
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Wait, I'm a boy.
870
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Well, I'm a girl.
871
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,320
And she's a boy.
872
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640
And thank God I'm still a female.
873
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,640
I am a female.
874
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,640
There's male and female.
875
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,440
I'm a female.
876
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:53,640
And God says, look up to me.
877
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Look up to the heavens where I am.
878
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:01,800
Colossians 3.2, set your mind on things above and not on things on the earth.
879
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:13,280
If you can just get a hold of that God is for you and not against you and he loves you
880
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:20,560
and he's more, what is it that you say?
881
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:28,320
You say he's not interested in your comfort as he is your character.
882
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:36,600
So, let's work on our character and let's be the best character witness that we can
883
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,600
for God.
884
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Thank you.
885
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,640
You really nailed that and it's inspired another thought is that we need to ask the Holy Spirit
886
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,560
to help us respond rightly.
887
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Yes.
888
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,560
So, okay.
889
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,240
So what just happened to me is a terrible thing.
890
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,720
I might have got a cancer diagnosis.
891
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,520
I might have lost a loved one.
892
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,760
I mean, there's a lot of hard things.
893
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,800
I mean, I can't pay my bills anymore because of what's going on in culture right now.
894
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,200
And the answer is not going to be voting for somebody else.
895
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Although we need to get out, we get involved, but our Savior is not a president.
896
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,280
That is not going to fix everything.
897
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,020
It's actually all of this is highlighting the fact that no one human can fix everything.
898
00:40:17,020 --> 00:40:18,020
We need God.
899
00:40:18,020 --> 00:40:19,600
Yes, yes, don't we?
900
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,560
If anything, this is highlighting for me is how much we need God and how we need to be
901
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,080
not silent when you shout it from the rooftops.
902
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Exactly.
903
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,880
But I love what you said because that really spawns this thought of look for God in it.
904
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,880
He's there.
905
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,880
He hasn't quit.
906
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,880
He hasn't abandoned.
907
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,760
Listen to this out of Hebrews chapter 13 verse 5.
908
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,520
God has said, never will I leave you.
909
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,840
Never will I forsake you.
910
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440
That's Hebrews 13, 5 in the NIV.
911
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,940
I never, never will I leave you.
912
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:51,940
Never will I forsake you.
913
00:40:51,940 --> 00:40:53,640
That is a promise.
914
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:59,120
The only time it seems like he's gone is when we've grown numb because we're in pain.
915
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,120
We're grieving.
916
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,120
We've lost something.
917
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,400
The thing is, he's sad for us.
918
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,400
Absolutely.
919
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,600
He doesn't want us to hurt.
920
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,160
He's hurting with us because he loves us so much.
921
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,760
He's got the most empathy of anybody is God.
922
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:25,440
His love is so pure that he cares more about crafting our character, which means how much
923
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:31,680
do you have to love somebody to not stop the pain knowing the outcome is going to be better
924
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,040
and then they'll be better for it.
925
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,980
That's the best kind of father.
926
00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:38,320
That's the best kind of parent.
927
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,320
He says, I love you so much.
928
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,800
I remember my dad, my mom would freak out when we got on the monkey bars when we were
929
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,800
little kids.
930
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,480
I said, nope, they've got to learn and sure enough, one of us would crash, fall off.
931
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,480
Did you break your arm?
932
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,480
I never broke my arm.
933
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Jerry broke his hand.
934
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,120
I broke my hand, but we had broken bones.
935
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,920
All of us had broken bones, but I learned, don't do that.
936
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,160
But my dad had the presence of mind to say, no, no, no, let him.
937
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,600
He's got skin in his knees.
938
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640
He's going to have to make a mistake.
939
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,000
And so anyway, but we hope this encourages you.
940
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,040
We came out of this obviously with our buckets overflowing, but really it wasn't as much
941
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,320
for us and talking with Adam and Tina about it, it was more for our friends and more for
942
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:28,640
what some others are going on around us to give us insight into how to give them sound
943
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,240
biblical counsel and a biblical perspective.
944
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,920
And it's hard because even while we were at K-Love, Tina and I, the first comment she
945
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,640
made and I told you that she was going to make this comment because I knew it, but how
946
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,760
can I have a good time when our friends are hurting so much?
947
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Yeah, she said that out loud.
948
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Yeah, she said it.
949
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:57,560
And it was, and I agree, it's hard, but God brought us there for a reason.
950
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:03,560
And it was to learn how to navigate the pains of life that other people go through.
951
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,040
That became very clear, very quickly too.
952
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,480
I mean, like the first thing we sat down at, we started getting these very clear messages
953
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,480
from God.
954
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,480
It was really beautiful.
955
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,600
I have a feeling that might be Tina's God shot tomorrow night for their show, Currying
956
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,600
the Keeper.
957
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,600
If it's not, it should be.
958
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Who knows how many she has.
959
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,600
It'll be something around that.
960
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,600
Who knows?
961
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Yeah, but we hurt for people, but we pray that God will get the last word no matter
962
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,360
what.
963
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,360
No doubt.
964
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,000
We want to encourage you, first of all, just to ask a favor, would you go to our website,
965
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,760
LivingUpAndAdownWorld.com and subscribe to our newsletter?
966
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,240
What we do, either on the day we do the show or a day before, hopefully, just depending
967
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,840
on our crazy schedule right now, we get it out.
968
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,360
And it's just a heads up, say, hey, it's coming.
969
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,040
And if you want to get other people, we talk about value for value, and it's not just about
970
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,840
finances, money, or anything like that.
971
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,800
It's about value.
972
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,080
What kind of value can you add?
973
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,520
If we're adding value to you and encouraging you, there's easy ways to add value to us.
974
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
And one is just to share our podcast with others and get it.
975
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,880
Because hopefully, this is going to help somebody.
976
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,600
I believe this message, look for God in it.
977
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,680
He'll never leave you or forsake you.
978
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,800
He works all things for your good.
979
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,800
He's not left.
980
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,040
He's not abandoned.
981
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,920
These are messages that people need to hear right now in the moment, especially in our
982
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,040
culture and the way things are so out of control right now.
983
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,320
We need to know God's there.
984
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,280
But also that He cares more about our character than our comfort.
985
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,760
He's crafting us.
986
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,640
He's building something beautiful.
987
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,520
He's building a masterpiece.
988
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:44,000
So if these words, these messages, this podcast encourages you, you can encourage us back.
989
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,480
One of the ways you can do that is drop us a note.
990
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,080
Let us know you're listening.
991
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,080
Let us know it's helping, it's you're finding encouragement in it.
992
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,480
You can do that on our website, livingupinadoworld.com.
993
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,400
There's a place you can just send us a note.
994
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,480
You can leave a review.
995
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,480
That's always helpful.
996
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,680
Or you can, through PayPal, you can donate and support.
997
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,560
It's just whatever it is.
998
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,560
Value is value.
999
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,600
We're not putting any kind of stipulation on that.
1000
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,440
It's whatever you think is valuable.
1001
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,440
And we love to hear from you.
1002
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,880
And we do enjoy.
1003
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,640
Never think you're, we talk about being so busy, but don't ever think we're too busy
1004
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,800
to read your note because your notes of encouragement are what?
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00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,960
They're life to us.
1006
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
That's like the air we breathe.
1007
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,800
And so we'd love to hear from you.
1008
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,200
And hope you've been encouraged today.
1009
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,400
This is, I didn't even say it, but this is episode number six.
1010
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,400
You did.
1011
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,400
You did.
1012
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,400
But technically it's not.
1013
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Oh.
1014
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,400
I know.
1015
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,400
I made a mistake.
1016
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,400
You missed a day.
1017
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,400
I missed an episode.
1018
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,400
I skipped 64?
1019
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,400
One of those.
1020
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,400
Five, four, three.
1021
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,400
You missed one.
1022
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,400
One of those.
1023
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,400
So we're just going to keep it at 66.
1024
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,400
We're just going to keep going.
1025
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,760
So we're going to pretend there's a phantom, phantom episode and people are going to go,
1026
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,400
wait, I was listening to your episodes and there's one that's been skipped.
1027
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,400
Yeah, I know.
1028
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,400
I know that in retrospect.
1029
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,240
It's because you're not a numbers person.
1030
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:57,240
That is true.
1031
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,080
So we're going to keep it at 66 and welcome to Living Up In A Down World.
1032
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,080
We'll help you have an amazing week.
1033
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,080
And we want you to live up in a down world no matter what's going on in this crazy world
1034
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,080
you're in.
1035
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,080
God bless you.
1036
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,080
One last word in that other word.
1037
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Look for God in it.
1038
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Look for God in it.
1039
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,080
Great word.
1040
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,080
God bless you.
1041
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:32,080
We love you.
