"The Narrow Path"

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,980 This is Jimmy in a net and oh well with Mr. 2 00:00:29,980 --> 00:00:35,880 Chevy of course he's always with us. He's in fine form today as he's actually awake right now. 3 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:43,280 He's going to jail tomorrow. I know puppy jail. Don't say that out loud. He saw us packing our bags. 4 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,640 I know. He gets funky. Yeah I'm sure he's like oh no. Here I go again. Where am I going? I'm being banished to 5 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:56,000 Siberia. It's gonna feel like Siberia now because it was 30 something degrees today. It was cold. 6 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:04,560 I made it up to 45 I think. And I drove in the rain and cold. I had to have my seat heaters on. 7 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:11,000 I never, you know I don't like to drive in the rain. I know you don't. It was a nice rain. It 8 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:17,720 wasn't a thunderstorm. I had to get out. I had to go get my nails done. You need to give him 9 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,040 some attention. I know. He's standing up. If people could see him standing up in a chair, he stands up. 10 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,720 Picture a gopher or a meerkat. It's weird. How they stand up on their haunches. I've never seen a dog like this. I know. 11 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,760 And he's not standing up on his legs. He's sitting on his rear. On his rear. Like his haunches. And he'll do this. 12 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:39,280 He'll get up on the top of the couch and do that. He's a lot of a gopher. He's really needy right now. I know. 13 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,600 It's because he knows we're leaving. I know. I know. He's clingy. Well we want to welcome you to 14 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Living Up in a Down World. My name is Jimmy and this is... What? Oh sorry. You're messing with Chevy. 15 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Well I didn't know you were doing that. Well I'm cleaning his little eyes. I know. Okay. This is my wife Annette. 16 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Annette. We've been married for almost 31 years. We have an anniversary coming up. I know. 17 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,560 And we got blessed with a gift didn't we? Yes. An anniversary gift. I am so stoked. I know. 18 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,760 You're kind of off mic right now because you're messing with Chevy. Oh I'm sorry. 19 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:17,080 Here Chevy stop. Focus. Focus. Come back to me. Yes we're going to Pagosa Springs the week of Thanksgiving. 20 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:23,960 I'm so excited. I hope the weather's going to be nice. Yeah you never know. You never know there. 21 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,080 So it's close to Durango. Beautiful beautiful area up there. I've been up there many times. 22 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Growing up in West Texas in the panhandle of Texas when we did vacations we always took off to the mountains. 23 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:42,080 And so we spent a lot of time up in New Mexico and the mountains and obviously Colorado and Wyoming. 24 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:51,480 So all through my childhood. So we're going to be gone tomorrow for almost a week and then we come back for what two weeks and then we leave again for a week. 25 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:57,680 I know. I know. It's just we fall is usually that way. Every fall is a lot of travel because we also have a lot of conferences. 26 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:04,560 So we're going to a really really big conference that we're excited about. It's been a long time since we've been to Bethel. 27 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,680 We're going out to Bethel Church in Redding California. Pastor Bill Johnson is the lead pastor there. 28 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,200 He wrote When Heaven Invades Earth a number of years ago which was a game changing book for a lot of people. 29 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Yes. So we're going to go out there. It's a pastor and leaders conference. 30 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:27,000 And so we fly out tomorrow. We come back Saturday and then I get to step up and preach on Sunday. 31 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,880 I'm super excited. I'm excited too. I'm excited to see what God's going to give you to preach on Sunday. 32 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:41,280 I'm open and I'm like a big antenna. I'm just receiving and just saying speak Lord and whatever you want your people to hear. 33 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,520 I'm here. Am I? Send me like Isaiah. There you go. So yeah. So we'll be flying out tomorrow. 34 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,240 I'm looking forward to it. But it's going to be like in the 30s in the morning. I know. 35 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,840 And so for people that live in other countries and anywhere north of Tennessee, they're laughing at us right now going you are such whips. 36 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,880 We are. But we are because we live in the heat down here. So we live in the Texas Hill country. 37 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,600 We don't get a lot of cold spells out here. No. But I heard this year is going to be. 38 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,800 I know we could have another snow. El Nino. Correct. El Nino or La Nina. 39 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,520 I get El Nino El Nino. Supposedly every seven years. 40 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,960 This seems like every year they're talking about this stuff. I don't know. I know. 41 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:27,240 It's weird. So supposedly we're going to have a very cold winter and then up north in the northern United States where typically it's colder. 42 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,880 They're going to have above average temperature. We should go to Canada. 43 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Oh, I've always wanted to go to Canada. I've heard there's some beautiful. 44 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,880 I know up around. Where was it? Where the Norwoods lived up in. 45 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,600 Up north of Washington state. Yeah, I don't know. 46 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,200 We cannot recall that. Yeah, I don't know. It was like stunning. 47 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Columbia. British Columbia. Oh, OK. OK. Yeah. Beautiful up there. 48 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,200 And I was jealous when they lived there, but we never got invited. 49 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,520 No, we never and we've never been to Canada. No, we've flown over the edge of it. 50 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Many, many, many states, but never Canada. I know it. 51 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:19,160 So I'm excited. I love traveling with you. I do not like traveling alone, but when we're together, it's like honeymoon and it's joyful and it's fun. 52 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,920 And you're my best friend. And so I just love, love, love traveling with you. 53 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,040 We have a lot of fun. We do. It's always fun watching dudes hit on you in the airport. 54 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Oh, my gosh. They are not hitting on me. Oh, hello. You're funny. 55 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,520 That's because you're gorgeous. Now, I turn around and they go, oh, she's the old one. 56 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,880 I'm sorry. I look at it like this. It's flattering to me. 57 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 It's like, dude, I won. So, you know, you're so I'm not threatened at all. 58 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 You're hilarious. I'm happy. I got flirted with you at the gym the other day. 59 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 I know that was kind of weird. Yeah. 60 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,360 But you missed your moment because he said you looked really good and you should have said, you should see my husband. 61 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,400 He's right over there. That would have been a perfect segue. 62 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Well, I think I was just kind of shocked when he said that a younger man was flirting with you. 63 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,840 I'm too old to do this. And I said, I'm quite a bit older than you. 64 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,280 And he goes, no, I can guarantee you're not. 65 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:13,720 And when I told him my age, he goes, oh, you are five years older. 66 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:18,000 I could be your mother. Oh, I'm only five years older. 67 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,840 I could be your aunt. No, I just know. 68 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,760 There's so many comebacks you could have had, but I think you were just kind of taken aback. 69 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,440 I think you were flattered. Well, I think it hadn't happened to me in 20 years. 70 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,960 Well, once every decade or so, it's nice for somebody to pay a little attention. 71 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,280 Yeah, it'll probably be my last time. 72 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,960 So when you when you text me, did I just run over there and stake my claim? 73 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 No, no, I didn't. I just got hit on by a man. 74 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,520 And I said, congratulations. That was my text back. 75 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,480 Congratulations. You're not jealous at all. 76 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Not at all. Maybe you should be a little bit. 77 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,040 No, no, I am so secure because you've made me feel secure. 78 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Oh, OK, good. We're safe with each other. 79 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,360 And that's the way marriage should be. Absolutely. 80 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Because we always say this to people that it's Jimmy and Annette, not Jimmy or Annette. 81 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Exactly. And we just present a united front. 82 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,560 In fact, in our church, what did I what I say I want you to start doing after the prayer night? 83 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,280 You want me to come up with you? 84 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Anybody who's listening who's new needs to hear. 85 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,600 We did this big prayer night like a week, two weeks. 86 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Well, we could go. It's been two weeks. 87 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Has it been two? OK, two Sundays ago on an evening. 88 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,320 And we're praying for revival and spiritual awakening, 89 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,720 because if there's ever a time when the world needs spiritual awakening, it's now. 90 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,800 So we're calling some prayer meetings to do that. 91 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 We had a couple of hundred people showed up. We had worship. 92 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,280 It was amazing night. Powerful, powerful night. 93 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360 And I brought you up on the platform to pray for one of the movements. 94 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,080 We did eight movements and you did one of the movements. 95 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:54,080 And when you were up there standing with me, there was something I was like, 96 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480 this is as it should be. You should be with me up here. 97 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,320 I'm not preaching with you. 98 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,120 No, I didn't say that. 99 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,880 It would be like this program where we're talking on top of each other, each other. 100 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,480 Exactly. Although I thought about us doing a panel discussion. 101 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,320 You and I talking about. 102 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,800 We've done that before on different things. 103 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,040 We've done it with the whole family. 104 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,480 But I actually thought it could be good for us to bring up a topic. 105 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 We could do that. That would be I would love to do that. 106 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,880 So we need to plan that. 107 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,800 So in light of all that, with you standing up there, I thought, 108 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120 I need to have you up here every Sunday just as kind of to greet the church, 109 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,920 because we have a lot of our church is growing right now. 110 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,680 We have a lot of new people, a lot of new people. 111 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:38,400 So it's impossible to get to everybody. 112 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,160 So not everybody knows that that pretty blonde on the front rows. 113 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680 But they do, because you bring me up every service. 114 00:08:43,680 --> 00:08:47,720 Well, I do talk about you a lot because remember, it's Jimmy and Annette, not Jimmy or Annette. 115 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Right. And there's a reason for that. 116 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,520 I know. And it's warred off any potential weirdness. 117 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 So, yeah, present a united front. 118 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,400 But that's just the way we roll. 119 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,600 And we've rolled this way for almost 31 years, November 20th. 120 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480 I can't believe you can remember the date. 121 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,280 I can't remember my phone number, but I can remember our anniversary and your birthday. 122 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,680 So, wow, I'm impressed. 123 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,040 Thank you. I'm married up. 124 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,640 I'm married up. You always say you married up. 125 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,640 But I'm married up. Well, we both married up. 126 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,880 How's that? There you go. 127 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,960 That's how it's supposed to work. 128 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,320 We both we both when you both feel that way, that's a good thing. 129 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,720 Good thing in a marriage. 130 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,320 Well, the name of our podcast, like I mentioned earlier, but it's living up in a down world. 131 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,480 And really, that's the heart of what this is about. 132 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,080 We recognize that sometimes the world can be very dark. 133 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:38,360 And right now in the in the season or in history that we're in right now, 134 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,840 it seems like it's darker than it's ever been in my lifetime. 135 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Now, I could be wrong. I could have forgotten things. 136 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:48,400 But it just seems like a lot of things have been a lot of older people that said 137 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,800 they have never experienced anything like that in their lifetime. 138 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,000 And I mean, you know, the pandemic scammed in it, 139 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,440 scammed in a pandemic, whatever it is, whatever it was when that came. 140 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,840 I mean, that's nothing that was unprecedented in our time. 141 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,800 We've never had government mandated lockdowns and stuff. 142 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,320 It was like, whoa, this just we just turned into a dystopian future. 143 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,640 And that was really freaky and unsettling. 144 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920 And it really traumatized our the world. 145 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,160 And so coming out of that, we've had cultural trauma. 146 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,280 So it's a dark world. It's a down world right now. 147 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,720 It feels that way. 148 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,480 But there's always bright spots and there's always amazing things going on. 149 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,800 And God's everywhere working in all kinds of things. 150 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,240 We say as lands on the move. 151 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,080 And as a Christian, we don't have to live that way. 152 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,680 When you're not a Christian, you don't know any better. 153 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:42,000 You don't know that there's there's something better out there 154 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,600 that can give you the hope that can give you joy, that can give you peace. 155 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,240 You're kind of a victim to your circumstances. 156 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,040 But when you have Jesus, it changes everything. 157 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Let's talk about Jesus for a minute. 158 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Because really, that's what we're about. 159 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,280 That is the core of who we are. 160 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800 We cannot not talk about Jesus. 161 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,400 Oh, we had Tina and Adam over last night for dinner and all we talked about. 162 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,480 I like three hours of talking about Jesus and what God is up to. 163 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:14,800 And for those of you who don't know, Adam and Tina Curry are two dearest friends on the planet. 164 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,400 We've been walking together, all of us together on our spiritual journeys. 165 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,440 They began walking their journey, what, two years ago? 166 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Was it about two years? 167 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,800 A year and a half, two years. 168 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,800 A year and a half to two years ago. 169 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,440 And then they moved to Fredericksburg. 170 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,200 And then we met. 171 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,680 It's a long story, so I'll keep it short. 172 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:34,520 But we've just become best friends. 173 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,200 So we hang out and we do life together. 174 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:45,800 And we threw some steaks on the pellet grill and did a carnivore dinner for us meat eaters. 175 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,640 And then we had some food for them as well. 176 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 But we talked. 177 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,000 It was God talk. 178 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,520 It was wonderful. 179 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,600 God conversations. 180 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,440 We have such a good time when we're with them. 181 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,440 We do. 182 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,400 I think I'm the most relaxed with them. 183 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,960 I had my house shoes on. 184 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Girl, you had the fuzzy house shoes on. 185 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:02,640 You were rocking those. 186 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:03,720 And I was wearing a hoodie. 187 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,280 I know. 188 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Well, so was Adam. 189 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,480 We're finally getting so comfortable with each other that we can just... 190 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,520 We don't have to... 191 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Well, of course, she was all dressed up, which I didn't understand why she stayed in her 192 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000 Sunday clothes. 193 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Well, talk about Sunday, as a matter of fact, in terms of Adam and Tina. 194 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,800 Because Adam, this was week two for Adam. 195 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,880 He gets to come to church. 196 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,080 To actually be in services with us. 197 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,800 We have two services back to back. 198 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,720 We do a nine o'clock and a 1045. 199 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,640 And Tina has been coming for a year and a half. 200 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,160 I mean, she's been committed and involved. 201 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,920 And she sits with you on the front row. 202 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,000 And so we always see Tina in the second service. 203 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,680 Always. 204 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,680 But what Adam does, because he does his podcast, No Agenda, by the way, if you want to know 205 00:12:50,680 --> 00:12:55,960 what's going on in the world right now, three and a half hours, two dimes a week on Sunday 206 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,160 and Thursday, look up No Agenda with Adam Curry and John Dvorak. 207 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Fantastic, hardcore podcast. 208 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040 No, they don't pull any punches. 209 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,920 They do poke a lot of fun at media and they do a lot of media deconstruction and what's 210 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,920 going on in the world. 211 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,160 And it's just, it's a great viewpoint. 212 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,560 I love listening to the show. 213 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,700 I can't do the full seven hours a week. 214 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:21,880 So I spot listen to it here and there when I'm driving and whatnot. 215 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,320 But I've learned so much from Adam just about how the just how things are going on in the 216 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,320 world. 217 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Very helpful. 218 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,320 It's a great viewpoint. 219 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,320 I love that. 220 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,720 But he does that show at one o'clock on Sunday and he's done this for 15, 16 years. 221 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,200 He stood at 11. 222 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,800 They bumped it back to one few years ago. 223 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,400 So they've been doing this 15, 16 years. 224 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,200 They've had 1600 plus episodes. 225 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,200 Can you believe that? 226 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,200 Wow. 227 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200 All long. 228 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,200 I mean, all three, two, three hour. 229 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Unbelievable. 230 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,440 But it would they do it two times, two times a week. 231 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Like I said, Sunday and Thursday. 232 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Yeah. 233 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,240 So that's a lot. 234 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Yeah, it is a lot. 235 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,480 A lot of air time. 236 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:04,600 So he has been feeling like the Lord has kind of been drawn him to try to reconfigure his 237 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,600 schedule again. 238 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,600 He's been in this group for a long time so that he get to church. 239 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 And he was a little concerned about him. 240 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,240 Can I get my prep time in? 241 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,120 Because he has a lot of preparation to do this show. 242 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,600 It's a fast moving show. 243 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Lot of content. 244 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:26,000 And so he and I did a bro date a couple of weeks ago. 245 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400 And he said, yeah, he said, I'll see you tomorrow. 246 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,400 I thought, what? 247 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Okay. 248 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,400 And he did. 249 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,960 So anyway, this was week two and it was so cool to see Adam and Tina together on a Sunday 250 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,960 morning. 251 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Maybe the first time, second time I've ever seen them there together. 252 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,760 On a Sunday morning. 253 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,760 First time. 254 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,880 So anyway, that's just a huge win because and he said he feels like he's doing better 255 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,280 at his show because it feels like God's compensating and whatever he sacrifices to be there, it's 256 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,280 like it's all good. 257 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,280 So cool. 258 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,280 So good. 259 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,280 We love those guys. 260 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,520 We talk about them a lot because you talk about the things you love the most. 261 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,520 And so we talk about them a lot. 262 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,960 That's a good way to put it. 263 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960 It's true. 264 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,960 I mean, don't we? 265 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,960 That and Carnivore. 266 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Yeah. 267 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Carnivore. 268 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:07,960 Of which? 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,440 Of which. 270 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,560 You got asked to be on a podcast. 271 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,560 It's Adam. 272 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,560 What's his name? 273 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,560 I'm going to look up his name. 274 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,040 His name is Adam, but it's not Adam Curry. 275 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,240 He's a big time Carnivore guy. 276 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,120 And man, I love this guy. 277 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,960 He and I, we connected on a platform for Dr. Ken Berry that we're a part of, we're members 278 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,960 of that. 279 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,000 And we connected through that and just turns out he's a believer and we just have just 280 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,000 hit it off. 281 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Can we look him up right now? 282 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,440 But his is a, is his podcast video? 283 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Yes. 284 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,440 It's a video. 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Okay. 286 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,440 So you're going to be on a video. 287 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,440 It's a YouTube channel. 288 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,440 Okay. 289 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,440 So. 290 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,040 So you're going to be talking about total life wellness. 291 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,360 So you'll be talking about Jesus. 292 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,360 Super stoked. 293 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,960 You're going to be talking about Carnivore, what it's done to us, you know, for us physically 294 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,960 and mentally. 295 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,760 And what else are you going to be talking about? 296 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,440 Mind, body, spirit, mind, mental, mental health, and just balance. 297 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,720 So his name is Adam Lacey and he has a great YouTube channel. 298 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,720 What's it called? 299 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,720 I'm going to look it up. 300 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,680 I'm juggling a lot of things here cause you caught me off guard with that. 301 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Sorry. 302 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,680 It's okay. 303 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Well, you just brought that on me. 304 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,200 So I was like, okay. 305 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Well, I just talked to him today and so we scheduled, I think I'm going to be on a show. 306 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,320 We're going to do the interview next Wednesday. 307 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,840 It's an hour long and he just wants to hear about our carnivore journey and you and me 308 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,280 and our progress and what we're learning along the way and just to encourage others. 309 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,160 And I was going to look up his. 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,040 I know Carrie talks about it a lot, but I can't remember what. 311 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,040 Yeah. 312 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720 From home said how is it called a handle? 313 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Is that what you call it? 314 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Or is it just the name of your show? 315 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Just the name of the show. 316 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Okay. 317 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Name of your channel. 318 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,160 Oh man, I'm really do not like that. 319 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Well, that's okay. 320 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,160 You can figure it out. 321 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Yeah. 322 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,160 It's carnivore something. 323 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Anyway, Adam Lacey's name. 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,440 So I'll get the name. 325 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,440 Yeah. 326 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,440 Cool. 327 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,440 I'll talk about it. 328 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 It'd be good for our listeners to listen to that story. 329 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Yeah. 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,960 It's just a journey that we're on and it's kind of an elimination. 331 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,840 We're kind of on an elimination diet of our whole total life. 332 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Total life. 333 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,760 And it kind of leads us into our topic today, doesn't it? 334 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,760 Exactly. 335 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,760 And so I want to share some scripture with you. 336 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,360 Just two verses that have been this morning when I got up, I always do a daily devotional. 337 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:35,840 I've written it for over 20 years. 338 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:41,800 I have about five to 6,000 entries that I've written independent. 339 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,360 I write them every day, maybe two or three, four times a year. 340 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:52,400 I might find an old one and refurbish it, but typically, you know, most every 360 out 341 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,600 of the 365 are all hot off the press every morning. 342 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,980 And I've done this for a long time. 343 00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:06,440 So today I wrote one called Monday Momentum, or Momentum Monday. 344 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,680 And as I was looking through scriptures, I calmed the word. 345 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,920 I get my Bible and I just different ways I'm looking for scripture. 346 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,880 You don't get a Bible and point to it and say, okay, this is the scripture that I'm 347 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:20,880 supposed to do. 348 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Not quite, but not far off. 349 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,880 Sometimes I'll flip through my Bible. 350 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,880 But if it says, you know, like, go sacrifice, you're not going to. 351 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,880 No, no, no. 352 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Yeah. 353 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,880 Oh yeah. 354 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,880 Some crazy stuff. 355 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,880 No, I just flipped through my Bible. 356 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,880 My Bible's all highlighted up. 357 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,880 I was going to say you have a lot of highlights. 358 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Things that stand out to me. 359 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,040 So this morning I was looking and I found, I just came upon the scripture. 360 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,360 It really jumped out at me. 361 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:42,360 It says this. 362 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:51,080 Matthew chapter 7 verses 13 and 14 says, enter through the narrow gate for wide is the gate 363 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:57,740 and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through it. 364 00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:58,740 That's pretty heavy. 365 00:18:58,740 --> 00:18:59,740 It is. 366 00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:04,360 Talking about the road is narrow, the gate is narrow, the path is narrow. 367 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:08,360 And, you know, you hear people use that in their language about, yeah, I'm on the narrow 368 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:09,360 path, you know. 369 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,560 Yeah, I've taken the narrow way. 370 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:12,560 So what does that mean? 371 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,560 Yeah. 372 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,360 Well, let me read the second verse because that'll give some, shed some light on the 373 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,600 first. 374 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:25,760 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life and only a few find it. 375 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,800 So you've got a narrow gate that leads to life. 376 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,520 You've got a wide and broad road that leads to destruction. 377 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,240 And what that speaks to, it speaks to the things. 378 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,640 Okay, I was talking about an elimination diet, right? 379 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,620 And so in terms of carnivore, doing a carnivore, keto or whatever, you begin to eliminate things 380 00:19:44,620 --> 00:19:45,800 that you deem… 381 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,800 Any kind of diet you're eliminating. 382 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Yeah, any kind of diet. 383 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,160 You're eliminating things that you think are not good for you. 384 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,880 So I just call it eliminate and concentrate. 385 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,880 So you eliminate the non-essentials, concentrate on the essentials, right? 386 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,740 Well, we do this spiritually too, mind, body, spirit. 387 00:20:00,740 --> 00:20:08,040 And so what we have been doing starting last February when you came back from a conference, 388 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,640 we cut out, we just cut something away. 389 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,000 And it's sort of like if you're in a hot air balloon and it's not getting any altitude, 390 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,000 they cut sandbags. 391 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,240 You know, they can increase the flame, but they also can have…sometimes have dead weight 392 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,200 on that and they can throw off that weight and it'll, you know, it'll get more altitude. 393 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:32,160 And I feel like what the path that God's had us on is a narrow path. 394 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:37,120 It's not for everybody and we wouldn't tell everybody to do this either, especially 395 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,280 the things that we feel like God has eliminated out of our life. 396 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:45,080 Because for one, the Holy Spirit needs to be the one to tell people, not us. 397 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,000 We just share what God is doing in our life. 398 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:54,080 And then hopefully, you know, people will ask, Lord, what is it that you want to eliminate 399 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,360 out of my life? 400 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,360 Exactly. 401 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,400 So that's what we've been doing. 402 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:03,120 And then we had our sabbatical and that was a good time to kind of eliminate and say, 403 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:05,960 okay, Lord, what is it that's this non-essential? 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,880 And it's not even bad things. 405 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,680 You know, we were watching a lot of TV back in the day. 406 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,520 I mean, that just kind of became our evening. 407 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:19,880 TV was always on, buzzing all the time and it just was just noise, background noise. 408 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:25,360 And so when you came back, we eliminated that and we suddenly discovered we had way more 409 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,680 time than we thought we did. 410 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,440 We had hours and hours and we were always going, okay, we need to watch our shows. 411 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,440 We need to watch our shows. 412 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,680 Now it's like, what do you want to do? 413 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,400 Hey, let's do a podcast. 414 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,280 It's almost nine o'clock, you know, it's late at night, you know, because we're traveling 415 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,720 it, we're day off. 416 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,480 But yeah, but we have time to do it. 417 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,480 Normally we'd be in there fighting over which show we're going to watch. 418 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,880 And so this elimination, this carving things out of your life. 419 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,080 So when I look at this scripture, enter through the narrow gate, and then it says, for wide 420 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,720 is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction and many enter through it. 421 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,720 That's a wide path. 422 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,560 It means there's a lot of people going down that path. 423 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,720 But isn't it talking about heaven and hell? 424 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,720 I mean, it is. 425 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,320 It's righteousness and unrighteousness. 426 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,080 It's right and wrong, up and down. 427 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,120 Because narrow is the road to heaven. 428 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,920 And there's a lot of people that think they're going to heaven because they go to church 429 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,520 or they, you know, have memorized John 3 16 or whatever. 430 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Yeah, they went to Sunday school and they were a kid. 431 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,240 Exactly. 432 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Yeah. 433 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,160 And you know, I think that what's happening in our world right now, so we got a lot of 434 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,440 crazy things happening, right? 435 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:39,520 I mean, with Israel, Hamas, you know, the Ukraine debacle, all this stuff, Afghanistan 436 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,520 debacle, all these things that happened, the political gameplay and I call it the clown 437 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,520 show. 438 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,080 I mean, you might as well just get some popcorn and watch it because it's crazy right now 439 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,440 and dramatic and just out of it. 440 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Popcorn's not on our carnival. 441 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,440 It is not. 442 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,440 We would not. 443 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,440 We would get bacon chips. 444 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,960 No, we'd fry up a whole pound of bacon and little chips and eat it like candy. 445 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,640 So that's the world we live in. 446 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,640 It's a clown show. 447 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,040 It's crazy right now. 448 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:13,880 And so this idea of getting away from that and pulling back from that to say, I don't 449 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,320 have to participate in everything and all the craziness of the world. 450 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,280 There's got to be a better way. 451 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:26,440 And so this narrow gate, this narrow road means that you may not, it may not be highly 452 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,440 populated. 453 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,920 There may not be that many people who want to get that serious about their walk with 454 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,920 God. 455 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,840 And this is not to beat anybody up. 456 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,120 It's that we need an awakening. 457 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,160 The church needs to wake up. 458 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Right. 459 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,720 And I think that we've kind of used God like an addendum to our life instead of, you know, 460 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,240 He's throughout our life every day. 461 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,440 I mean, He's the center of our life. 462 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,320 But a lot of times it's the addendum. 463 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,800 It's like, oh, we got to go to church. 464 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,360 So, oh yeah, we need to. 465 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,680 Let me find my Bible. 466 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,720 You know, because I don't know where it is because I don't read it. 467 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Or you know, I mean, so many people are caught up. 468 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:23,240 They have so much stress in their life and with work, with family issues, addictions, 469 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,240 so many things. 470 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,240 Overwhelmed. 471 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Yeah, and they're overwhelmed. 472 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,320 It's a hard life for people. 473 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,120 You and I have had many, many conversations through the years. 474 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:41,920 I remember, I won't say their last name, but a lady named Kathy. 475 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,640 Back when we were in another town pastoring, I remember her at one of our small groups, 476 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,680 we were talking about, you know, worship music on in the house and having the word, maybe 477 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,440 playing, you know, the scripture. 478 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,480 And she said, I have to do this. 479 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:03,960 If I, I literally have to have the word of God worship 24 hours a day. 480 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,120 If I don't, I can't make it. 481 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:10,480 Because she had been through some horrific trauma and abuse. 482 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,560 And she was out of that situation. 483 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:18,480 But the residual pain and suffering that she continued to deal with, because it was so 484 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,480 bad. 485 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,360 She said, the only way I can survive is to stay close to Jesus. 486 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,960 There's no other way. 487 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,160 And the truth is, she's right. 488 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,000 But she's not right just for someone who's been traumatized. 489 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,320 She's right for everyone. 490 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,320 All of us. 491 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:41,440 I know for me, you and I, we can barely, we have to listen to worship music all the time. 492 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,160 I mean, we need it because I need mine. 493 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280 I can't, let me put it this way. 494 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,080 When I became a follower of Jesus, I went all in. 495 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,600 I didn't want to play games. 496 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,120 I didn't want to be a hypocrite. 497 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:59,760 Because I'd met a lot of those folks before I was a Christian. 498 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,440 So at 19 years of age, when I stepped over the line, I went way opposite. 499 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,320 I'm never going back. 500 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,320 This is it. 501 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,560 There is no plan B. This is only plan A. No B, no C. No options, no trap door. 502 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:13,600 I'm going all the way in. 503 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:19,280 And so that's how I have lived my life since that time. 504 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560 And it is a narrow road. 505 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,640 It can be lonely sometimes because not all your friends want to talk about Jesus all 506 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,640 the time. 507 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,940 Not all your friends want to talk about the kingdom of God, the strategy for winning the 508 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:36,240 world to Jesus Christ, which is what we're all called to do. 509 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:42,960 But it's remarkable how few people really have gone all in, to be honest. 510 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,200 And so it is a narrow path. 511 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,640 And sometimes it feels like during COVID, when you would go somewhere and there were 512 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800 no cars on the road, you're like, oh my gosh, has the second coming happened and I missed 513 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,800 it? 514 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200 Jesus airlift everybody out and I got left behind. 515 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,880 It's creepy sometimes because I've been in a grocery store where for whatever reason 516 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,240 in that moment in time, there's hardly anybody in the store. 517 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,480 And it's a weird feeling. 518 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,200 But that's how sometimes life has felt for me, to be honest. 519 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,680 I've got a lot of surface friends. 520 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,480 I've got a lot of acquaintances. 521 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,800 I love doing life with people. 522 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,200 I'm a people person. 523 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,560 But in terms of going deep on a consistent basis, very few. 524 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,600 It is a narrow road. 525 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,600 It really is. 526 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,920 It really, really is. 527 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,120 We've had people that wanted to hang out with us and be our friends, but when they were 528 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:40,240 around us a few times and all we wanted to talk about was God. 529 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,920 You know what I'm saying. 530 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,920 We have other conversations. 531 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,920 Of course we do. 532 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:54,280 I'm looking around your room and you have what, 10 guitars hanging up in the studio? 533 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,280 Nine. 534 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,280 Oh, okay. 535 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,280 Nine. 536 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Only nine. 537 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:09,320 So you have, it's not like every minute you're in the scriptures, but you weave God into 538 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,520 every conversation. 539 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Because God created the world. 540 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,680 He created music. 541 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,640 Oh, did He create music? 542 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,640 I can't not do that. 543 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Exactly. 544 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,440 So it does make you, it is a narrow road. 545 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,680 I mean, when I look at that scripture, I go, I get that. 546 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640 I think we've lost our wonder. 547 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Our sense of awe and wonder. 548 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,200 Yes. 549 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200 Wow. 550 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Explain that a little bit. 551 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,200 That's a beautiful thing. 552 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,200 It just came to my mind. 553 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000 Because I remember Tina was talking yesterday about her trip that she just got back. 554 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000 The Narrows. 555 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,680 From Utah. 556 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:49,800 And she said it was just, it was so breathtaking and so spectacular. 557 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,800 The beauty. 558 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,800 Right. 559 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,560 And it made me think about where did that come from? 560 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760 Well, obviously it came from God. 561 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:04,000 And where is our wonder of the things that God has created? 562 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,720 You know, I think about just even today, we were talking about our marriage because we're 563 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,960 about to go on this week trip in Thanksgiving. 564 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,960 That's just you and I. 565 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,720 It was a gift. 566 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:25,520 And so to me, I'm in awe of having a good marriage because of what we've had in the 567 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,520 past. 568 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Right. 569 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:34,120 I relish in the fact that God has given me a wonderful man and wonderful children, wonderful 570 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:42,440 family, and I don't take for granted what we have together as a couple. 571 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,480 It's because we put God number one. 572 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,560 And if we didn't, I don't know where we'd be, honestly. 573 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,560 If we would be. 574 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,560 Exactly. 575 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:51,560 Exactly. 576 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,920 It's that critical for us. 577 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,920 It is. 578 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Yeah. 579 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,200 Gosh, I agree with that. 580 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:03,680 And when you lose your awe and you lose your wonder, you lose that childlike innocence. 581 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,880 And the world can do that. 582 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,160 Man, it's a hard world out there and it can. 583 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640 It can beat the crap out of you. 584 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,640 It can make you hard. 585 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,360 It can make you jaded. 586 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,440 How many people have we met that are jaded against life? 587 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,920 And it's tragic because they can't find joy. 588 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,960 They can't find life and laughter and kidlike. 589 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960 And I was with our worship team on Sunday morning. 590 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,120 I played on Sunday morning on the worship team and I was real excited. 591 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,120 We had great songs. 592 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,440 It's a great set. 593 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,720 So I was really pumped about it. 594 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040 But I was telling our team, we gather for prayer before the first service. 595 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400 We do two services back to back. 596 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,320 And I was like, guys, let's just play in the presence of our Father. 597 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,560 Let's just play. 598 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,560 Be playful. 599 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:55,040 And one of the songs we sang yesterday is so…one of my favorite songs, Brandon Lake's song, 600 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Gratitude. 601 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,120 And here we are coming up on Thanksgiving, which I don't think about gratitude and 602 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Thanksgiving only on Thanksgiving. 603 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,120 But we are coming up on that. 604 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:16,920 And if we could just have gratitude and Thanksgiving at this time, that is the key to happiness. 605 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,920 Oh, it is. 606 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,920 No doubt. 607 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:27,000 Having gratitude in life, if you have to look for it, even in the midst of turmoil and horrendous 608 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:35,280 circumstances, find that one thing that you can be grateful for. 609 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,920 If you can't find anything else, then just think about that. 610 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,720 That's all you need to do is think about that. 611 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:48,080 And God will give you more things and He'll put them into your heart so that you can think 612 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,520 on those things. 613 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:58,200 And to me, Thanksgiving is one of my favorite holidays because I think gratitude is the 614 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,200 key, period. 615 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,600 You know, I think something you said, I disconnected the dots on this, but just in this conversation 616 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,560 is that awe and wonder, actually, gratitude is a part of that. 617 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,640 You can't be in awe of something without saying, oh, God, this is amazing. 618 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,240 Oh, thank you, God. 619 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,440 I mean, I'll step out on the back porch at night, you know, let Mr. Chevy do his thing 620 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,000 before we go to bed. 621 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,640 And there's a massive cross on a hill across the highway from us and it's on a way high 622 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,640 hill. 623 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,720 You can't see the highway. 624 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680 All you see are trees, hills, and this massive cross. 625 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,200 And it's called the Happy H Ranch. 626 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,000 And everybody who comes to Frederick's, we're, hey, there's a big cross on the hill out 627 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000 there. 628 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,000 We live out by that cross. 629 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,920 And so when I see that at night and it's lit up two nights ago, three nights ago, I took 630 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,880 Chevy out and the moon was a full moon. 631 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,960 I mean, full bore. 632 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,640 It was as full moon as I've ever seen. 633 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,600 And there were some clouds around it, but it was clear where the moon was. 634 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,080 And so it was coming through really strong. 635 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560 And there was a big planet right next to it. 636 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,120 So and it was all right over the cross. 637 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,120 Wow. 638 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160 Almost came and got you because I'm that way. 639 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,640 Did you not take a picture? 640 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,480 I didn't have my phone in my pocket and my iPhone doesn't take good night shots of me. 641 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,120 I got to figure out how to do that. 642 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,280 I don't know. 643 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,560 So for whatever reason, I'll take one. 644 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,240 It's like, that looks terrible. 645 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240 Doesn't do justice. 646 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,000 But anyway, I captured the thought in my mind and I was so full of wonder and I was all 647 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,040 I could say was, thank you, Lord. 648 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440 This is, I just kept going. 649 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:34,440 Wow. 650 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Wow. 651 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,040 I mean, because literally out loud, because what I do when I step out on the back porch, 652 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,840 I don't know if you ever heard me do this. 653 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560 I'll say good evening, Holy Spirit. 654 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,880 I've never heard you do it. 655 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Good evening, Lord Jesus, Yeshua. 656 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,400 And then I'll say good evening, Abba Father. 657 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,640 So I do that every night when I'll go out and take him out there and I'll just say a 658 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,240 prayer, a brief prayer, just usually as I'm looking up at that cross. 659 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,360 And when we were looking at this house to buy four years ago, I stepped out on the back 660 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,520 porch and I saw that cross and I thought, if for no other reason. 661 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,360 Well, it's funny because where we came from was Cross Mountain. 662 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,360 I know. 663 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,280 And that was the area we lived in and there was a cross on the hill in Fredericksburg 664 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,880 and then we moved out here and there was a cross on a hill right across from us. 665 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,160 And when we lived in Abilene. 666 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,960 We lived on King's Cross Street. 667 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,960 I know. 668 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,960 There is something about that. 669 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,960 There is something about that. 670 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,960 I don't know. 671 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,960 It's just wild. 672 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:28,960 It's uncanny. 673 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,160 And yet when we're looking at houses, we're not thinking about the cross. 674 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,160 It just happens. 675 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,160 No. 676 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,160 It was there. 677 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,160 It's just amazing. 678 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,720 And every night I walk out and every morning it's such a reminder. 679 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:39,640 It's the wonder of God. 680 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,000 It is wonder. 681 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,020 There was a picture that Tina sent from the Narrows. 682 00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:47,280 Do you remember the one where she's looking up and she looks like a little girl? 683 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,280 She does. 684 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,280 She looks like a 10 year old looking up. 685 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,280 She is awestruck. 686 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,880 I love that picture because I see that on her face in worship too. 687 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:02,600 And I love people that have that childlike gaze that when something amazes them and they're 688 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,520 awestruck, they have that look. 689 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,760 And Tina does that a lot. 690 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760 She does. 691 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,640 She's just a childlike, not childish, childlike in a beautiful way of being awestruck. 692 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,520 And so it's true. 693 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,520 The awe of God. 694 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,800 But awe of God, it precipitates gratitude, doesn't it? 695 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,800 It does. 696 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,720 But it also precipitates joy. 697 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:27,920 That's how you live up in a bad world, a down world. 698 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040 And I'm not negative like, oh, the whole world's going to hell in a handbasket. 699 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,040 No, I'm not that. 700 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640 I'm not that at all. 701 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,700 When I say down, I just mean we live. 702 00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,920 It's a playoff of the Genesis narrative that we live in a fallen world. 703 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,880 So that's why I call it a down world. 704 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,240 It's fallen. 705 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:46,520 And so it's not a knock or a critique of the world. 706 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,760 It's just a biblical expression. 707 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,560 It's just saying it in a little different way. 708 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,800 So but the idea is that we can live up and the way we do that is through awe. 709 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,840 It's through wonder, which leads to gratitude and joy. 710 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,960 Don't you just love being around joyful people? 711 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960 Yes. 712 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080 And I love that word joyful means full of joy. 713 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,840 And when you get around somebody like that, you want to stay around them. 714 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,840 Yeah. 715 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,840 Yeah, that's right. 716 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,640 I think that's why I like hanging with Adam. 717 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Yeah. 718 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,640 He's joyful. 719 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,640 All the time. 720 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,640 Oh, man. 721 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640 I don't think I've ever seen him in a bad mood. 722 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,640 Ever. 723 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,640 Not for more than 10 seconds. 724 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Yeah. 725 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,640 Yeah. 726 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040 He's just a joyful guy. 727 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,240 It's an interesting guy. 728 00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:29,240 Yeah. 729 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:30,240 He really is. 730 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,240 Love it. 731 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,240 Love it. 732 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,240 Very good. 733 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,240 What do you think? 734 00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,080 What do you think in your mind's going? 735 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,640 I'm looking at these scriptures as we're talking because of it's so many. 736 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,440 It's just the golden rules right before that. 737 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,800 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you for this sums up the law 738 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,280 and prophets enter through the narrow gate. 739 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,280 It's all part of the same flow. 740 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,280 Narrative. 741 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,280 Yeah. 742 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:02,760 I think my heart is broken for people who are entering the wide gate and going down 743 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,880 the broad road because it's easy to go with the crowd. 744 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,080 It's easy to go with the flow of people and just get in the flow. 745 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,560 It's like when you're driving in fast traffic in Dallas, Fort Worth or Houston or San Antonio 746 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,800 or wherever and you get in that fast track lane and you normally don't drive that fast, 747 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,640 but you suddenly find yourself doing 87 through town because the whole flow of traffic is 748 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,040 going 87 miles an hour. 749 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,200 You just get caught up in it. 750 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040 You look down at your speedometer, you're just going with traffic. 751 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,840 You're like 87 miles an hour. 752 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:38,840 We're going, whoa. 753 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,400 No wonder I got through Dallas so fast. 754 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400 But you get caught up in the flow. 755 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800 Get caught up in that stream. 756 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,080 But it happens in every arena of life. 757 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520 We get caught up in things. 758 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:59,600 Right now, a lot of the signals that we're getting from the world is saying down is up, 759 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:06,480 up is down, left is right, right is left, good is bad, bad is good. 760 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Everything is topsy-turvy right now. 761 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,080 Cancel culture. 762 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,080 Oh my gosh. 763 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,080 Unbelievable. 764 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Yeah. 765 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,080 Ghosting people. 766 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:20,200 I mean, there's so much darkness happening and it's confusing and it's chaotic. 767 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,240 It's like the world's in a frenzy right now. 768 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:24,360 Spun up. 769 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360 Everybody's spun up. 770 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,360 Gosh. 771 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,640 You've got to find, you've got to get out of that flow. 772 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,640 You've got to get out of that stream. 773 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,640 You've got to take a step back. 774 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,640 You've got to find Jesus. 775 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,640 That's it. 776 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,640 You've got to find Jesus. 777 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,640 There is no other way. 778 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,880 There is no other answer. 779 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,120 We're looking for something that we don't know what we're looking for. 780 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,840 So we're finding things in the world, but that's not making us happy. 781 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,760 No, it's all temporal and it only lasts for a short time. 782 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:57,520 Remember after you went through your divorce and you went through a period of time, I did 783 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,280 the same thing because we were young. 784 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,280 We were damaged. 785 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,280 We were damaged. 786 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,960 We were both 29 years old and you separately from me because we didn't know each other 787 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,160 at the time, decided, well, let's go. 788 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920 I missed out. 789 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,360 This was my thought. 790 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640 I missed out because I got married at 16. 791 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520 So I missed out on the bar scene. 792 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,800 I missed out on going to get drinks with the girls after work. 793 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:31,200 I mean, literally, I told myself, okay, I am going to not go to church on Sundays. 794 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,220 I didn't go because I spent time with my friends. 795 00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:40,600 We went out to the lake every weekend and I remember doing that for a couple of months 796 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,960 and at first it was fun because sin is fun, I guess. 797 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,080 Not that it was sinful, but- 798 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,240 We wouldn't want to do it if it wasn't fun. 799 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:58,000 Exactly, but it was a sin against God because I totally took him out of my life, period. 800 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,080 But I remember after a couple of months, like you, you brought God, you were like, okay, 801 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,760 I did all this with you to your friends when you did the bar scene and all that with them 802 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,400 and you're like, okay, now I want you to come with me. 803 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,400 I made him come with me. 804 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,400 And you did. 805 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,080 And then we ended up, you and I ended up meeting. 806 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:22,680 But the thing is, is for me, I remember being, I was just, I was a shell of myself because 807 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:28,240 I was trying to be something I really wasn't because God didn't create me that way. 808 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:34,480 I had lived a life serving and loving God, but I totally put him on the shelf for two 809 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,600 weeks, two months. 810 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,040 And I'll never forget when I said, I'm not going to go to the lake anymore. 811 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,000 I want to go to church. 812 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,440 And it was so awesome because my friends that I was going to the lake with every weekend 813 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,120 said, well, we'll come to church with you. 814 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,120 If I would have known that I would have not gone. 815 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,360 It was Karen and Becky, Becky Furrow, remember? 816 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:03,520 But I remember going back to church and really rededicating my life and heart and saying, 817 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,840 God, I am sorry. 818 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,640 Okay, I have to ask a timing question. 819 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:14,440 How long did, what was the timing of that and then when we met at church? 820 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,960 Well, very quickly. 821 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,880 I mean, we, the timing was probably a couple of months of not going to church and just 822 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,000 totally going out with the, with girls and the guys. 823 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,960 And it was probably a couple of months. 824 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:36,200 And then, gosh, when I started going back, I would probably say I met you within a month. 825 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Wow. 826 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,200 Yeah. 827 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,200 It wasn't long. 828 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Yeah. 829 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640 Because God was doing the same work in me. 830 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,600 Mine wasn't a two month run from God. 831 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,040 It was about a three week run from God. 832 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,600 I couldn't run that far and that fast. 833 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,760 Well, you were a pastor. 834 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,760 I could see that. 835 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,760 No, it wasn't that. 836 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,760 I know. 837 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,720 It's just that I really, I was all in with Jesus and then I tried to ignore that. 838 00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:02,800 But what was your thought process of why you did it in the first place? 839 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:09,040 For me, it was like, oh, I missed out on my childhood, you know, in my dating life because 840 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,560 I got married so young. 841 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,560 Wasn't missed out. 842 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480 It was more, I was just... 843 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,800 Were you angry with God? 844 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,400 I probably was. 845 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,160 Probably never admitted it, but I'm sure I was just angry. 846 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,240 Like, how could all this happen to me? 847 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,280 How could I lose everything so quickly? 848 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,640 And yet I was going to seminary. 849 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,760 I was a youth minister. 850 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,760 I was winning kids to Jesus and we had a huge youth ministry. 851 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,240 So you were numbing out. 852 00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:33,320 So I was numbing out, totally numbing out. 853 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,400 I was just depressed and yeah, angry. 854 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,720 But I don't know that I ever told God that. 855 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,600 I was so in awe of God. 856 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,800 The fear of the Lord was real with me. 857 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,120 You told him years later. 858 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,240 Oh yeah, yeah. 859 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:48,240 Years later. 860 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:52,000 We've had lots of conversations since then, honest conversations. 861 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,340 But yeah, I was... 862 00:42:55,340 --> 00:43:01,880 It was so bizarre because when I did do that, I went to this place with these guys, these 863 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,760 friends, friends, these dudes from the gym. 864 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,400 They're not even friends because we don't even see or talk to those people anymore. 865 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:16,440 But anyway, I remember going to this club, big popular club in this town and I saw a 866 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,120 bunch of my high school guys. 867 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,120 Really? 868 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,720 And I'm like, oh, what are you doing here? 869 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:23,080 And they're like, what are you doing here? 870 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,720 I'm just hanging out. 871 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,240 We were all embarrassed to see each other. 872 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:30,840 We saw each other and we're like, what are we doing here? 873 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:37,920 Like I said, that only lasted a couple, three weeks for me because I ended up ministering 874 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,640 to people there because I couldn't turn it off. 875 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,480 I totally believe that because I know you. 876 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,720 I ended up talking to people. 877 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:53,880 Even you and I, after we met, we went I think once or twice to go dancing. 878 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,880 And I was like, no, you're just not a good dancer. 879 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,160 No, I'm just kidding. 880 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,160 You were a good dancer. 881 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,160 I was throwing down. 882 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,440 I had some moves in that 80s, 90s. 883 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,080 I actually don't remember now that because I just remember that wasn't the scene. 884 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,200 It just didn't feel right. 885 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,400 I felt better going to church with you. 886 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,840 And that became the center of our life very quickly actually. 887 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160 And we did Bible studies together. 888 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,080 We ran back to God big time. 889 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,920 We became church junkies. 890 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,760 I wasn't on staff at a church at that time. 891 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920 I was working at Butner Children's Home in Lubbock. 892 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,480 But we went to everything we could go to. 893 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,440 We were in small groups. 894 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:34,440 We got in the choir. 895 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,440 I remember that. 896 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560 I can't believe I sang in a choir. 897 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,240 But anyway, we did that. 898 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,760 We were involved in everything. 899 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,440 And we got married very quickly. 900 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,440 We did. 901 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,440 And then we'd go to two churches. 902 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,200 I was on staff at a church and on Saturday night we went to another church. 903 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,200 We couldn't get enough. 904 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,320 And I'm sure the listeners are going, what? 905 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,800 I don't even like my church. 906 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,560 You don't like your church? 907 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,600 Find a church that is vibrant, that preaches the Word of God. 908 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,240 Or ask why do you not like it? 909 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,240 Yeah, why? 910 00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:04,240 What is it? 911 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,160 Is it because you're being picky or you're being nitpicky? 912 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,720 Or you're in sin? 913 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:08,720 Yeah, exactly. 914 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,440 I mean, there's things that taint your ability to like something. 915 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,240 It may not be the church's fault. 916 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:20,280 We were just, we just needed God and we wanted God in our relationship to be number one. 917 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,280 Hungry. 918 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,280 And you know what? 919 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,280 It's not changed. 920 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:24,280 We're still the same. 921 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,720 The only thing that's different now is we don't go to another church. 922 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:32,360 That would be very, that would be weird to go to another church. 923 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,720 But we do go to a lot of conferences at other churches. 924 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:35,720 We love our church. 925 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:36,720 We love the church. 926 00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:37,720 Yes. 927 00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:38,720 And the bride of Christ. 928 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:42,160 And I like the church in all its flavors and forms and colors. 929 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,760 I just, I get along with everybody. 930 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,800 And so it's still, the bride of Christ is still the center of our world. 931 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,000 Jesus is still the center of our life. 932 00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,400 And if that makes us weird and alone on a narrow trail, then so be it. 933 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,400 I'm happy. 934 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,840 The joy of the Lord is real. 935 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,840 It's our life. 936 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,840 Exactly. 937 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,840 Yeah. 938 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,840 It's good. 939 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,840 Girl, you're awesome by the way. 940 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,440 I love you. 941 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,440 Thank you. 942 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,280 I just, I love reminiscing about our past because I just, it just, it's how it's the 943 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,280 foundation of our marriage. 944 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,920 It was built on a solid rock of Jesus Christ because that's what we did. 945 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,400 We put him right where he was supposed to be and we have never taken our eyes off of 946 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,400 him. 947 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:41,120 Even when we've had tragedies in our life, we have not taken our eyes off of God. 948 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,120 Yeah. 949 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,400 I told God, I'm like Jacob, you're not going to shake me. 950 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,680 You have to break my hip to get me off because I'm all in. 951 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:55,720 And I love that we've done this journey together and there have been forces against us to try 952 00:46:55,720 --> 00:47:02,720 to separate us and try to destroy us and destroy our family and things that I've watched destroy 953 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:03,720 other families. 954 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:10,040 And so God has kept us, you know, we're called, we're loved and we're kept by him. 955 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,400 And so man, I love it. 956 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,640 And I love doing this life with you, whether we're doing a podcast or we're rocking some 957 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,120 steaks on the pellet grill or we're at the gym pumping iron or we're at Sunday morning. 958 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,840 Which we've done all that today. 959 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,840 Today and packing. 960 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,840 And that's another thing. 961 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,000 We love going to the gym together. 962 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000 We do. 963 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000 We do life together. 964 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,000 It's Jimmy and Annette. 965 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,000 I love you girl. 966 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,000 I love you too. 967 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,360 Well, listen, our show, our show, we're going to land the plane. 968 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,680 We've got a plane to catch. 969 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,280 We still got a little packing to do. 970 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,280 I got to get some sleep. 971 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,280 I know. 972 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,280 Okay. 973 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,280 Hey guys, thanks for listening in. 974 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,840 I mean, we just kind of brought you into a coffee conversation when I was sitting at 975 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,560 a coffee table, but we love you guys and so appreciate you. 976 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,320 The notes and different things that we get. 977 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,560 We just appreciate it. 978 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,200 We I mean, I do talk about value for value every week. 979 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,680 I don't want to spend a lot of time on that, but if you value what we're doing here and 980 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,680 it brings value to you, one of the ways you can show value is to send it to a friend or 981 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,600 send it to somebody you think, you know, they might appreciate hearing 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00:48:48,960 But yeah, and or you can go to our website, living up in a down world.com. 996 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,680 I put daily devotionals on there. 997 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,720 So there's something for you to read every morning. 998 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:54,720 And then you can write us. 999 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:55,720 You can email. 1000 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,520 You can leave a review. 1001 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,560 We've got some beautiful reviews. 1002 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,480 So we'd love to hear from you. 1003 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,080 And really, I mean, our heart is I'm sitting here. 1004 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480 I feel like I'm sitting in your living room. 1005 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,480 I do. 1006 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,520 I really I feel that sense of being close to people that are listening. 1007 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,360 And we want you to know that Jesus is the way. 1008 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,800 He's the truth. 1009 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,800 He's the life. 1010 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,080 And the scripture says, there's no other way to come to the Father through Jesus Christ. 1011 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,200 And we want to help you do that. 1012 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,280 We want to encourage you on your journey, knowing that it is a narrow path. 1013 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,400 It's not a wide path. 1014 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,680 It's narrow. 1015 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,080 And there's things along the path that can try to knock you off the path and get your 1016 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,840 attention and distract you and take you off. 1017 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,520 And yet, you're called, you're loved, and you're kept according to the book of Jude. 1018 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,080 And so just know that. 1019 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,840 And God's for you, not against you. 1020 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:51,840 And we're for you, too. 1021 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,760 And so listen, we want you to have an amazing week. 1022 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,760 We'll be doing some traveling. 1023 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,520 We'll have a lot of stories next week. 1024 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,360 So let's show about probably be packed. 1025 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,360 God bless each one of you. 1026 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,360 Annette, anything you want to say as we land the plane? 1027 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,400 Thank you so much for tuning in and just hope that we're bringing hope to you. 1028 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,400 That's it. 1029 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,400 We're going to bring hope in life. 1030 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,400 God bless you. 1031 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:22,880 Have a great week.